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You can say their names. Vince and David are two of the real bright spots in the entire leather industry. They are the first people and usually the last I see at any leather show. They come early to supply whatever machines are needed for classes at the shows besides being venders. They weren't in business yet when I bought my first machines, but were sure the only consideration when I bought the last three. BTW, Vincent is the king of sewing machine Jenga. While I was packing my booth he and a helper broke down the three machines and had the machine heads, stand parts, and parts boxes interlocked in the back seat of my truck with no rattling for 700 miles of rough highway.
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What type of Edge beveler do you use?
bruce johnson replied to Yukonrookie's topic in How Do I Do That?
Yes he does. The Ron's Montana edgers have narrower toes, cut a rounded profile, and good for thinner leather. Five sizes and we stock and sell them all. I also have the Ron's round edgers that are designed for heavier leather in a few sizes. I started off with the sizes a shop needs at a minimum and will be adding more sizes of the round edgers as he gets them finished. -
The man you need to get to know well is Eli Schlabach at Landis Machine Co in McLeansboro, IL. Phone number is 217 543-3464. Eli rebuilds stitchers and big stuff and has some 16 parts. I sent him some parts for other stuff a few weeks ago so I know the phone number is good. Before I bought a 16 that hasn't run in 17 years, I would talk to Eli first.
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The Leather Journey I Didn't Want - Advice?
bruce johnson replied to Moonstone4229's topic in Getting Started
Since the auction deal got brought up, here are my auction thoughts. Actually this is an excerpt from a draft part of an article I am working on. This isn't all necessarily directed at anyone, but hopefully some things you all can consider. I buy privately and through auctions. Privately it is usually a "take it all" deal or "everything but machines". I love auctions on one hand because I don't have to buy it all. I don't have to pack out a box of screwdrivers, pliers, and claw hammers because it is part of the shop. That is the auction buyer's advantage - cherry picking. I can pick and choose. I get to a few auctions. I have a buyer at many of the other auctions I can't get to. They have my full support and know the ranges I will pay. Some days my phone is blown up. The auctioneers that deal with these kinds of tools and equipement routinely are somewhat regional (and some are Amish). The owner (you) ends up with travel expenses and lodging for the auctioneer and crew if they come to you. The promotion generally consists of an ad or two in Illume magazine (used to be ShopTalk). Some social media advertising. Maybe the Plain Dealer if that still exists or Ag newspapers. Those expenses are yours in some form. Some auctions might still be 10% commission on larger ticket items like machines (like two or three of the machines in this thread), 20% on the rest and smalls is pretty common. Some charge low commission percentages but then add on a buyer's premium. That is a percentage the buyer pays and most buyers figure that in when they set a top bid they are willing to pay. They bid less in total because of it, you get less in the end, and the auctioneer gets the bigger cut they need for expenses and services. 15% buyers premiums are not unusual. No sour grapes, my son is an auctioneer and premiums are just how they have to do some auctions to cover expenses while getting a decent return for the seller. Picking a local general auctioneer? It might be OK but I have seen some real train wrecks. Poor promotion, poor sorting and presentation, poor knowledge of products, and no idea of values so bids start at a bad spot. If they have someone to help with a knowledge of them, that covers some mistakes. Live auction. If I get on the airplane/rent a car/ship purchases home or drive 12 hours - personally I need to have plenty to look at. Otherwise I'll have somebody I know already going or hear about it later. Bidders at an estate or retirement auction - bid like a buyer, not a bargain hunter. Be fair, this a fund raiser in the form of selling out a livelihood. If you hold up five fingers on something that should bring a hundred, don't be mad when I bid $75 next bid. The auctioneer doesn't want to run it $5 at a time to reach the hundred and probably doesn't need the practice. They appreciate a fair bid, three or four more advances, and sold. On-line auction or live auction/on-line bidding - some local auctioneers are set up for it and run it well, some aren't. Some are legit and honest, some aren't and will run up an absentee, phone, or on-line bidder during a live auction with that option. If I don't know them by reputation or someone I trust's experience, I don't bid. Also I want to know the other charges like shipping and handling up front. If they charge a set fee per lot and then take it to the UPS Store to pack and ship - I'm out. I don't begrudge anyone the charges for reasonable packing and shipping costs. If you are charging $10 per lot packing fee to drop 3 groups of 5 handled tools into a flat rate box with no padding, that's $30 plus the flat rate cost. Again, I'm a watcher not a bidder. I like the on-line auctions but I want these previous concerns addressed before I click the first bid. -
The Leather Journey I Didn't Want - Advice?
bruce johnson replied to Moonstone4229's topic in Getting Started
This is always tough. Some of the machines may have a local market value and some won’t. Once you get out of that local sphere shipping costs go way up and offering prices go down. The hand tools ship easily and you’ve got some good ones and some wall hanger only ones. Once you get some space cleared then I’d recommend sorting by maker and type. That will be the best way for buyers. It’s good you aren’t on a tight time frame! Some of these estate sets have to be out of a building in a month or two and those are tough. ideally selling as a unit or large groups is easier but at the expense of less money. Selling in small groups or individually tends to bring a more true value but you will end up with stuff that nobody wants. I’ve seen it down both ways and sometimes the buyer wins and some times the seller wins. -
WTB - Saddle Makers Shop Manual Harry Adams
bruce johnson replied to julesnovember's topic in Wanted
I just sold one on my website Saturday. I believe I’ve got another copy. I add tools for sale nearly everyday and usually do books and pattern packs on Saturdays. -
In a word - no. The top roller and shaft is one piece. Cast and then machined. This is a 100 year old or more piece and finding anything modern that will match up and mesh with the bottom roll and match diameters - unlikely. I hear you on the day job. Down to about 7 months to go and my tool gig will be full time.
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Tonight I have added 8 Don King stamps for sale on my website. These stamps are duplicates for us and friends I trade with. It is pretty rare that his stamps come up for open sale. Background - Don King is generally credited with refining the Sheridan Style of leather craving and influenced many carvers who further progressed with it. He was also a great stamp maker. If you have been to Sheridan and visited the Don King Museum, then you know. I have a large collection of them that I have used and now Ms Rundi uses. Pretty much everything she makes seems to have a Don King stamp on it. These stamps are meant to be used, not stuck in a drawer. For more details please check them out at - https://brucejohnsonleather.com/recently-added Thank you! - Bruce
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That was my guess too but then when I read about taking it apart, that made me wonder. I’ve had people ask me about swapping out the full rollers at times too. Some think that the top and bottom rollers are just slid on a separate shaft.
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Do you mean putting a single wheel on the end or swapping out the rollers?
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What type of Edge beveler do you use?
bruce johnson replied to Yukonrookie's topic in How Do I Do That?
Numbers don’t mean much between makers and some makers have a different numbering system for different types of edgers they make. I’ve got round profile edgers that go to 3/16” inch of cut. I have new edgers from Ron’s Tools and refurbished from a few makers. Here is a link - https://brucejohnsonleather.com/products/hand-tools/edgers -
Machine table mod - 'garbage ditch'
bruce johnson replied to sinneD's topic in Leather Sewing Machines
I was in a shop a few years ago that he had a good setup. Cut about a two inch square in the top over the utility drawer and used that for thread ends. He had a few machines and kept small stuff and needles in a parts drawer organizer and screwdrivers in a tool rack. -
Sold one a short while ago for $300 but I don’t seek them out. Going to say, the Weavers are OK but bulky for what they do. If you are set on a Weaver I understand. I’ve had a couple Cobra’s through here and my wife and nephew both have them too. The Cobras do the same thing with the advantage of variable speed. They also can go on a stand and not take up a bunch of table of bench space. Also the Cobra is half the cost.
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At the Pendleton Leather Show Toby Yoder and I discussed me carrying his tools for sale on my website. It works for me because some of the older tools are getting less common to find in the sizes that makers need. The discussion came together, the latest shipment arrived yesterday, and I have added them all to the website today. I have a dedicated page of the Ron's Tools now and they are also listed throughout the website in the appropriate pages by tool type. Ron's Tools has a long history of quality tools. I bought my first good edger from Ron Edmonds almost 30 years ago, and I have been a user ever since. When Ron retired and sold the business to Toby he has carried on the same quality and craftsmanship. These are just plain good ones. We are starting with Montana edgers, round edgers, French edgers, cantle binding trimmers, free hand groovers, and gouges. We will be adding more sizes to the lineup as well. You can check them out at https://brucejohnsonleather.com/new-tools/rons-tools Thank you for your consideration, - Bruce
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Yesterday I added a page to my website of leather related instructional books and pattern packs. I had a bit of a feeding frenzy after my email and social media posts and a lot of the initial postings sold but we still have some good stuff left. This will be an ongoing page with regular additions of more materials - some vintage and some relatively new. Please check it out at https://brucejohnsonleather.com/products/books-and-patterns-1 For more updates please consider signing up for the email notification list on my website or follow on Facebook or Instagram. Thank you, Bruce