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in many respects it sort of looks like a BUSM #4 .....but that is a needle and awl machine. could have been the predecessor

try...... "cuar son".... are fourth or "cual son"...which are can't make anymore sense than that and in what context of the pattern it relates to..

this company was also on my wish list to follow up ..[skiving knives and others] try using Internet explorer/google/translate french/english.. their irons or "claw strikes" . spacing and blade count per tool are designated by the the last 4 digit number on the part number. eg/.[3_702_0410] GRIFFE A FRAPPER A DENTS N°04 10 DENTS equates to a size# 4 [6.75 mm between each tooth] and 10 dents or 10 teeth on this tool..price euro 135.99 note the minimum order is euro 100 and I haven't put my toe in water with this company as I have heard sometimes postage out of France is a bit erratic and Verge don't mention anything about international shipping.Plus they are out of a few tools I am after,so maybe later.

Industrial chemist/engineer/..QA Manager....9 years in pharmaceuticals/hospital supply [baxter NZ]...23 years in drywall/building products manufacturing.

King = German made to ? 1950's? NEA= New England Awl & Needle Company...NEA&NCO [Medway,MA,USA] 1871 to ? 1950's?[merged with USMC] [link to long to post ; but search "united awls medway" ..photos of the factory and staff]

Hi Greg and all I talked to your Father a few years back and someone we both know had cleared out most of the needles. Actually that buyer is a quite helpful guy [no animosity in my comment] here is what I found in 2008 Groz Beckert in Germany had a number of 97x3 [roundpoint for cloth ,webbing] quantities they had ~ 3 years ago were..... sku :703762 97x3 size 250 [27] Available 3,800 needles sku: 702412 97x3 size 280 [28] Available 8,100 needles sku: 703772 97x3 size 300 [29] Available 2,100 needles Price Sept/2008 : 109 Euro/100 [Germany]. do you have any Singer 97 machine stuff left? yes I did see a new hook [complete] for sale in the US, but it was sooo expensive I didn't inquire if it was still actually available.

forgot to mention that you "can" use a 794 system needle ,but it is a shorter needle. there is a 1000H needle [long], but of limited range and not much stock around I think..Bob Kovar would know. Hi Darren..re: bobbins..sounds interesting....now that I remembered ...let me know what you can get as I have 3 machines that use this size.. Singer's 97-6 , 7-5 plus a ["Techsew"] 180...[well not a Techsew per se'... different brand ,but it came from the same Chinese factory] Raphael Sewing Machine sell a bobbin ..how does this compare?

I have a Singer class 97 [model 97-6]....picture of it in the gallery. they use a small or short bobbin [singer# 11910]...same as used in Singer 7-5, 7-9, 7-34.... Fairly common ..priced <US$6 ea for the original style or less for the plain generic ones [check ebay] Needles are the issue , depending on your intended use .. for leather ..97x4.. these are rare now for cloth webbing ..97x3..still plenty around link to a previous request for needles... http://leatherworker.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=34978 there was a interesting discussion regarding this machine sometime back. that got some enthusiastic responses against buying a old "clunker" 97 but this machine suited me at the time and should continue to do so.

Hi talk to Bob Kovar of Toledo Industrial Sewing Machine Sales Ltd.... .he is on this site ..."sewmun"....he may have a few 97x4 left [for leather] .............................. Groz Beckert in Germany had a number of 97x3 [roundpoint for cloth ,webbing] quantities they had ~ 3 years ago were..... sku :703762 97x3 size 250 [27] Available 3,800 needles sku: 702412 97x3 size 280 [28] Available 8,100 needles sku: 703772 97x3 size 300 [29] Available 2,100 needles Price Sept/2008 : 109 Euro/100 [Germany].

Hi Gary try again.. .try Machine Part Welding in Penrose.. actually I need to do something similar and as I work in that area..I will check out and let you know... they have done industrial work for us in the past and weren't greedy.