Denise

Can't add much to helping the car, but for dogs straight hot water - as hot as you both can handle - will do wonders for removing the smell. A vet I worked for had her two show dogs skunked a couple of days before a big show. Lots of baths with regular shampoo and HOT water (no, we didn't scald the dogs!) and they made the show OK. So whatever in the car you can wash with hot water a few times, do that. Leather? Not the answer.

Mike, I think that thread got lost in the July hack attack. Someone smarter than I am can maybe do a search for it and see if I am wrong. If it is gone, I would think the other forum would have contact information for him.

First off - Welcome Everyone!!!! - newbies or "experienced". I find it interesting watching the dynamics on the board. It is not uncommon that someone new joins, is all excited about being here because this IS a fun place to be, and posts a LOT right off. I did. Then they learn a bit more about how this place, as opposed to others, works and their posts may change a little - or not. Others join and are real quiet till they figure things out or just lurk always but can see the pictures. Either way, EVERYONE is welcome. That is one of the best things about LW.net - the friendly atmosphere (even TwinOaks' humor and the dog licked doughnuts). The main goal of LW.net, as Johanna has often said, is the keep leatherworkers from needing day jobs. This place is about 2 1/2 years old. We have almost 3,300 real members (some of those other numbers are spam bots or something intenet related that I don't understand). So we are a really LARGE site that is still comparatively young and still growing. Right now LW is primarily a forum where people learn about leather. But it can be, and will be, a place that more people can find you to purchase your products. That part of the idea is still growing and the details have to be worked out. I don't see LW becoming a "store" - so more power to people who want to set that up - but an information source to buyers. So for right now, put up your links in your signature, since that seems to be the best way for search engines to find you. And link this site to yours. That lets more people find us too. Then let a moderator know if you want your stuff in the leatherworker's database Johanna and Kate have up their sleeve. Just know that the sleeve might be pretty long. Everything here is done by volunteers, so it takes time. After all, we all STILL have day jobs...

Well, we're going out to a friend's for Thanksgiving dinner. No, we are not celebrating early. It's Canada and this IS Thanksgiving. By the way, it is 60 degrees F, (15 Celcius), sunny and beautiful in northern Alberta. No snow, and only had a few frost so far. What's with the snow down south?

This isn't the thread I was thinking of. That one might have been "misplaced" in the crash of January 08 (there's still hope the old post will come back though!). But this one might help. Thanks to Bob for posting it for us. http://leatherworker.net/forum/index.php?s...pic=221&hl=

It looks like what Mark said at the beginning is true. 1.) Some people see this as underhanded, and 2.) this is something that is done by marketers. (Now we'll be able to spot it!) I don't see his post as a personal promotion of marketing in this way, but just a post informing us of what is done in an industry that most of us are not part of. While I personally disagree with posing as a "real person" strictly with the intent of marketing on forums, I do see a lot of benefit to being involved in forums to find a market for our goods. Two years ago I didn't know anything like forums existed. Since then I have found a few that have discussions on topics of interest to me. Some I just read. A very few I have joined, not to market, but because I have things to learn and to contribute. I see the major benefit as being the information I gain and the friendships I make, which is especially what LW.net is all about. At the same time I see it as being fair to tell others what we do for a living and why we know what we know. There is obnoxious, run-the-other-guy-down type of salesmanship practiced all over our world. We all tend to have a similar reaction to that. Then there is good information given that promotes your product – what is good about it and why you make it like you do. Being a participant on a forum who is involved in the discussions gives you credibility with the other members (and the lurkers) so when you do say something about your product, people will take note. It does not even have to be "promotion" as such. Often just helping people learn more about leather or holsters or saddles or masks or whatever will bring in inquiries. That is why Johanna is always encouraging people to put up their website addresses, fill out their profiles and put links into their signatures here. It just makes sense to let people know how to contact you (if the forum allows it, which some don't). Regarding any controversy here: as I read it, it seems to be more of a misunderstanding resulting from the impersonal media of typed words on a screen rather than being about to see and hear each other. The thing I enjoy the most about LW is the welcoming, friendly atmosphere here. I suggest we just extend a little grace, give everyone the benefit of the doubt and move on.

Someone here had this idea a while back and I believe posted their work. They did up on the computer a pile of impressions from the "common" stamps which, if my faulty memory serves me, could be used like Davy envisions. Anyone else remember this and where it might be, or did I just dream it up?

Thanks, Marlon. I had never heard of them before and I wondered, but in that picture they look a lot like a muskrat. Same family?

So how does skunk taste?

Ian, here are a couple of threads on this forum that talk about cameras and photography as well. If you search "photography" and "photo" on the forum you will get more. http://leatherworker.net/forum/index.php?s...;hl=photography http://leatherworker.net/forum/index.php?s...mp;hl=photo+box

Thanks, 8thsinner, for answering such a basic question. I thought because I have to scroll down now on my favorites list my number was getting large. Nope, don't do as much surfing as you guys do, obviously!! Never know what you will learn on LW!

I managed to contact Joe tonight and have his permission to post his contact information: Joe Breti Coal Creek Custom Knives Box 4 Farmington, B.C. Canada V0C 1N0 1-250-843-7361 He has also come up with some other unique tools for a saddle maker. JAM, if you get one can you give us a full report?

Daring to look ignorant here, but are bookmarks and favorites the same thing?

Elk, moose, deer, grouse - rarely. I like elk the best, and Rod got his on the first day of the season, so we have meat for another year. Yay!

Steve, I believe Herb Bork does some 1/2 size hardware, but I'm not sure what all he has on hand. I'd ask him about the cinchas too since his son makes full size ones.

Give me -40 and a blizzard over a hurricane any day. At least I know how to handle those! Take care.

Raynman, Your best bet to get the answer to these questions is to PM Dennis Lane here or e-mail him through his website (www.dennislane.com.au). At this point I don't know of any other production manufacturers using the system (though if they get asked about it from enough saddle makers maybe they would start looking into it more?). There are no costs I know of to use the system as a tree maker except the cost of a set of cards and the time it takes to correlate the horse shape Dennis's system is describing to how you are already building trees. Some people seem to think that they would be expected to change their trees to fit the system. It is totally NOT SO! All it does is tell them the shape of the horse. But they do need to card a bunch of horses to get to know what, say, a D6, D7, D8, R9 horse looks like and decide what tree specs they would use on that horse, and this does take some time.

Thanks to those who have already contributed. To those you have yet to do so - only one week left till ClayB's beautiful work goes to a new home. Plus you get the satisfaction of knowing that are supporting a good cause here at Leatherworker.net. It's worth it!

Beautiful, Clay. Have a GREAT weekend. I am sure that anyone who stops by will learn a lot.

No expert on beavers but my mother had a beaver fur coat when I was a kid. The heavy guard hairs had been removed so it was just the soft undercoat left but it was shaved or trimmed and was still at least 1/2" to 3/4" deep. It would definitely collect stuff. The guard hairs are a lot longer. The uncle could tell you more for certain.

Steve, the spelling I have is Ballantyne from one of Ben Crane's old tapes. Now, can we trust Ben's spelling? A question here. I have heard of these referred to as hondas up here and hondos down in the US. Can anyone enlighten us on the history of the word and why it is different in different places? (We'll deal with mecate and McCarty another time...)

Congratulations Alan! I'll look for it when our WH comes - about two weeks after you guys get yours.

Bebah, Here is a thread on inlaid seats to get you started. http://leatherworker.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=1794

Sorry to hear you are laid up, but I bet you will be surprised at the innovative ways you figure out to do something! Glad to hear the phone is ringing too. Most people are pretty good at waiting if they know there is a good reason and they are given as accuate a time line as you can give them. If you are asked to do physio when the casts come off - DO IT! That type of stuff can speed up your recovery amazingly and get you back to full range of movement where just "living and doing" can leave you with problems. Too bad it had to happen. Glad we live in a part of the world where the fix is available. Take care of yourself.

OK. I finally have to ask because I have thought of this question every time this post has come up. So, did you learn the names, origins, insertions, actions and innervations of all those muscles as you were making them?