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I haven't used it for leather but for cordura nylon we use MDS loaded nylon as a stiffener between two layers. It can be sewn easily and is much less likely to crack than HDPE or normal nylon 66. Its about like the cover material from office supply above except more durable. We use 0.031 (1\32) or 0.060. Below is one source as an example I found on google. I usually purchase in 2x4 sheets. Don't remember where I actually purchased it. https://www.mscdirect.com/browse/tn/Raw-Materials/Plastic-Sheets?searchterm=mds+nylon&navid=4287921892

For occasional use I have a set like this. https://www.amazon.com/Neiko-02614A-Interchangable-Hollow-10-Piece/dp/B0002T87E0/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1547123421&sr=8-3&keywords=hole+punch+set I also have dedicated hole punches for number 0,1,2,5, and 8 grommets. https://www.sailrite.com/Round-Hole-Cutter-1-8 Mine are actually this type. https://www.sailrite.com/Hole-Cutter-1-8

I have to say my first thought was 'UGLY'. But likely would have bought it 4 days ago before I bought another patcher. But I'm also too lazy to paint any of my machines or stands. So, good work.

Thanks for the replies. I've bought the Adler because it was closer and it works well. The Singer 29k71 is still available. Looks like it needs more cleaning than the Adler. Debating on a 4 hour one way drive. I have two 29-4's that both need parts and one singer stand. I may just play with them now that I have a working patcher. What to do, what to do.

Which patcher would you pick? A Singer 29k71 or Adler 30-5? Both on stands, good working condition, both $500. I know limitations of patchers.

Man I was dizzy reading this pdf without pictures. I need pictures! But have a 145 I need to clean and tune soon. My sister bought it sight unseen by me at an estate sale only because I needed a Pfaff knee lifter table for my 238. Didn't even pay attention to the machine for a couple of years. But then realized is was a pretty nice 145.

Okay I knew that was the reverse but didn't realize it was variable. Just looked harder and found a manual with instructions for reverse and using it for stitch length. Just didn't look quite far enough.

Just pick up a 17-30. Needs cleaning but sews well. But although labeled 17-30 with what looks like original tag it lacks the stitch length adjustment. The bulge is in the casting but not milled out. Anybody seen this before and know how to adjust stitch length? Still in van. Haven't played with it.

I don't consider clutch motors a problem. Have one I bought 4 years ago and still haven't put it on any of my 15 machines to try.

Thanks

Thanks. I'd gotten close and was pretty much right about the specs. Not up for 346 thread. Probably 148 with that needle systwm. My comment on price was based on finding what I thought might be same capability for.less in new but likely lower quality machines. Late last night and don't remember which ones I found. Yamata 335 head with large.bobbin new for LT $1000 shipped. Comments? Similar capability new machines? Cylinder beds I know least about. Still have to get all my 111s running. Well they run but need cleaning and tuned up.

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/2161876254062810/ What model? And same as/comparabke to? Seems maybe over priced. Opinions?

A lot of time unless you hold the two levers (machine and lifter) in right position they will end up on the wrong side of each other. Look in video to see actuating lever on bottom of machine and it's relation to the knee lifter lever. Look under you machine and see if they are oriented right. If I just set my 238 down on table they end up on wrong side of each other. Pfaff stand offs under the table are taller. I was going to have to.put spacer blocks on bottom of table to.make singer lift work. Finally found Pfaff table with lift for $35 and got a good condition 145 along with it.

I wouldn't likely buy a new one but a used one available. https://www.amazon.com/YEQIN-Leather-Patcher-Industrial-Machine/dp/B07BBKR6GQ/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1541394537&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=patcher+sewing+machine&dpPl=1&dpID=51QaMmDo05L&ref=plSrch Worth having for $500? Never going to spring for name brand and can't find time to restore one of the two 29-4s in basement. BTW I know what as a machine they do and don't do. Want to add a patcher to the herd.

Never mind

Can anybody tell me needle class for this machine . Don't have time to look it up heading to look at one. Also can I buy interpret the numbers after 461? Thanks

To northern?

Why are these always thousands of miles away?

Your getting lots advice. Two more to recommend since you not doing english or western saddles that we all think of are singer 7 class or 132k6. Both are used for building parachute harnesses. New version is seiko sk6 khmm I think and Consew 733. Only issue may be height under presser foot but 7 class can be converted to high lift. Good luck.

I'm building a shed to move things like generator, power washer, etc out if garage so I can fit more in there. Must be up to 15 on tables including 30 inch arm and 7 class, three tables still on the trailer, one 29-4 treadle stand, one 7 class table in storage while I work.on head, and my grandmothers old treadle home machine. Is there a 12 step program for us? Two have been for sale for 5 years, but only advertised on craigslist once 5 years ago

Zig zags I have are consew 199r-2, 2 pfaff 238s, bernina 217 and 217n, and viking home machine - 1010 or something like that. I haven't tried to do what you want but trying to butt two edges together seems to be something special. Normally these machines sew two layers on top of each other. Differences in thickness or other things might cause them to feed at different rates. Consew 199s, pfaff 238s, and bernina 217s all have two feed dogs on each side so may work okay. Of the three parts are trivial for the consew. Tougher to impossible for pfaffs and berninas. A new version of the bernina 217n is sold buy global in europe. Parts are compatible if you have the same width model but they don't seem to have individual screws etc available. Likely they're at factory in China. Out if the three I'd recommend the Consew for parts availability. But maybe an older one before made in china. The pfaff 238 is a tank. I'm gett8ng to like the bernina. The viking 1010 does somethings that the others won't. 6 layers of 1000lb 1 inch webbing. But only has one feed dog on each side. But try doing what you want to do on a machine before you buy one. Seems to me there must be a special machine for this. Maybe someone that does this will answer. Good luck.

I just got a 206RB-3 for $300 on table and motor. But in order to get that deal I had to take a 331k4 singer shuttle machine and a 111wsv77 for $100 each, on tables. And they threw in a Rimaldi 4 thread serger on table for free. Hmm, four machines that were in use when turned off for $500. I couldn't say no, even though 2 weeks later 3 of the tables are still on the trailer because I don't have any room in the house OR garage for them. I'll have to read all the advice above. Too late now. Did we ever decide exactly what the 111w special variant 77 was? I have a 111w151 and 155. I guess I'll have to set them next to each other and see.

What they said. I think a better description of these is 'boat anchor'. I bought a complete, well functioning, cleaned up 132k6 for $750 on table with clutch motor. Best part was the original small format manual.

I have a 7-33 and 7-34. The 7-34 is in good shape but someone put some parts together wrong and I have to sort out the feed timing. Parachute riggers like me have used these for decades with 5 cord to make parachute harnesses. I don't use mine for anything smaller. In good working order a parachute rigger would expect to pay $1500 to $2500 depending on where in the country. Often folks looking for them. If you bought it on the spur of the moment when spending a couple hundred for a servo motor my guess is you paid a lot less than that. A pretty good complement to the 111w151 (have one also). Now also have 132k6 that some riggers like better. Trying to decide if I want to keep my 7-33. 7-34 will be for sale when I get it working right.

What Wiz said. But you can get #69 at most fabric sewing shops as upholstery thread. Usually labeled #69. Or pull apart a seam on your couch to see what it looks like.