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Thanks guys, Eaglestroker I think Dave (DCKNIVES) should get alot of credit, he helped me a bunch when I first started trying to make one. Him and a few others.

That turned out really nice. Think it fits the appearance of the M&P very well.

Finished a few of these guys. Well mostly have to redo the strap on one hence why it doesnt have one on it right now. Anyways 8oz WandC, the standard basket weave is brown and cordovan, the others one is saddle tan and the other light brown. My antiqueing did not come out all that great on the tooling portions. I am really struggling with that part. I was really excited because I finally got some Barry King tools (a few bevelers and a couple of basket stamps) and the bevelers are so very nice when getting that deep looking tooling. They really have the right angle to them. Just couldnt get the antique right to really bring it out. Ahh well. Other then that I was pretty happy with them for the most part. Any thoughts for improvement are more then welcome.

It doesnt have a feeding mechanism I dont think so you have to hand feed the stuff. Also I think those are a form of chain stitch so you can undo the bags with a pull of one of the threads. Not good for leather work.

If you take paypal Ill take it.

For anyone that wants a bunch of info on scroll work check this forum out. I signed up and there is a wealth of info there. http://www.handengravingforum.com/index.php

Wanted to add the reason I make the lining leather wider then the main piece is that I have a heck of a time getting them lined up correctly before the glue catches. That is just my way of making sure it doesnt get screwed up. Plus with things like pig and what not its pretty stretchy so you kind of gotta do that. With vegtan like Dwight said you can cut them the same. Just be careful on assembly. For padding I order some neoprene from the foam factory. Cut it about 1/8' smaller and put a bevel on it. Works great.

Looks great man. I was recently on a engraving forum doing some scroll research and that looks like a really cool craft. Gotta try and not think about it or Ill have another hobby I cant afford.

I line my rifle slings with suede, belts I do with vegtan but very similar to how I do it. 1) First cut your strap or belt 2) Tool and finish the strap till you get to the point you want to stitch it. 3) Add any padding if you are going to do that. I add the padding the same way as the suede. Any thin leathers I use Super 77 spray adhesive. Spray both sides being joined together. Let it sit till tacky then carefully press together and go over with a roller or slicker. Make sure to press all the areas down really good. 4) Now once it is padded I cut out the lining leather bigger then the strap or belt. Spray like I mentioned above, carefully apply the strap to the lining leather. Make sure to press it all over to get good contact. 5) Let it sit to the side to dry for a good while. I usually wait atleast a few hours. 6) Cut the lining leather pretty close to the strap. I use my head knife but a razor knife works great or your shears. 7) Stitch your project stitching everywhere there is lining leather. 8) I usually use a good sharp knife to trim it right up next to the strap. Then edge bevel like normal. 9) Finish your edges how you normally would.

As far as it ruining steel knives and such, I think the trick is to go thru all the process first then make sure it is fully dry before you do anything with it. I have a roon sheath for my multi tool. This also has one of the tandy black belt clips on it. The gerber mutli tool has been stored in this thing for the last few years with occasional use and there is no rust or anything else of that matter. The belt clip looks fine as well.

Hand stitching I use linen that I wax myself. Bourbors linen to be exact usually 6cord. For machine stitching I use the bonded nylon thread.

Thanks Wiz, still working on it. Ive got it doing pretty good stitches on 5oz chap type leather and what not. I am going to play with it more tomorrow. Still learning a bunch about these guys. Need to get one of those roller feet or teflon feet for it.

Prince was wondering where you got it from. I saw it at barnes and nobles but it was pretty darn pricey. Saw it at a jewelry supply store for pretty decent price but dont know the place and was wondering where you got yours from. Thanks.

Belts and holsters I use vegtan to line with. For my rifle slings and guitar straps I would line them with suede (or suede splits I guess in the correct term).

Well finally getting into trying to get my 211 up and running. Bought it used and slightly broken before my underway. Got it all lubed and relatively cleaned. Put in a few new components and some 92 thread and a size 20 needle or something (sorry cant remember but it seems about the right size). Well had to retime the hook assembly (forgot what its called) to grab the thread properly. Now I notice when stitching it wants to bunch up underneath the work. Looks like a little rat nest along the stitch. What is usually causing this? Another question is there a shim you have to change on these for larger thread and needles? I wanted to try 138 thread if I could although 92 will work for now. How do you guys set these up for sewing thinner leather? Would like to be able to sew about 6oz vegtan if I can. Mostly wallet interiors and such. Now it does still have the clutch motor, am assuming this thing needs to get replaced to really give it any kind of torque so will be looking at a servo motor in the future. Thanks for any info guys.

Yeah those are two great places. Lots of the people here get there supplies from them, pretty sure anyways. Just got some orders in from both of them. Cambell has some good needle/thread information as well on there site. Thanks for sharing. Art knows of many more I am sure that are also good to get stuff from.

PM Bronco or Ricky as both are still on the forums. I didnt get back to this thread in time to talk to either one and ended up just going to a boot repair place down the street. It was more expensive then doing it myself but it was done right and they lasted just fine after that.

Artificer where are you located at? I know in my general area there are several usually of like the 206rb's and such. Some in great shape some not so much. Various other flatbed machines of that style as well.

Just saw this listing last night. Would go check it out myself but cant afford to spend any money right now. http://seattle.craigslist.org/kit/bfs/2612744434.html Guy says he has about 10 industrial machines for sale. May be something in there that could be worth looking at.

Thanks guys for the info. Ill see about getting some straight mineral oil, I had ordered this from cambell when I ordered a few other things not thinking that the oil from that store would be more catered to the big beasties. Maybe Ill just use it on my 211g155 but even that old guy may have pretty tight clearances in comparison to the big boys. Thats funny Spinner.

So I got some of this lily stainless machine oil today and noticed it is far darker then the stuff I got with my CB4500. Its more of a lighter brown color while the small bottle I got with the machine is pretty much clear. Just not sure if this is how that Lily oil is suppose to be. I assume this is a good oil to use on these guys. Anyways thanks for the info.

Yeah didnt see that part until I read it again last night. I have noticed that one will pop up from time to time in the WA, OR area. I have noticed several of the flatbed machines on CL as well. Not sure if any of those are anything that you would be looking for or not. Anyways good luck, if I see anything Ill post a reply here.

Its a bit of a drive but its the latest one I have scene in our neck of the woods. http://seattle.craigslist.org/sno/bfs/2611109177.html