nope not those either....here are the over unders from bg book
the small boton oriental or small fan knot.
begin as a gaucho knot of two passes. thong is passed up around mandrel and then back down o1, up o1, down o2, up o2, down u1 o2, up u1 o2, down u2 o2, up u2 02. now here is where the difference starts. down u3 o2, up u3 o2, down o1u3o2, upo1u3o2, down o2u3o2
up o2u3o2, down o3u3o2, up o3u3o2, down u1o3u3o2, up u1o3u3o2, down u2o3u3o2. now the working end is brought around u2 alongside the standing. and your done.
3 section fan or boton oriental
begin up thong is wrapped twice around mandrel now down o1 u1 o1, up o1u1o1, down o2u2o2, up o2u2o2, down u1o2u4o2, up u1o2u4o2, down u2o2u6o2, up u2o2u6o2, downo1u2o3u4o1u2o2, up o1u2o3u4o1u2o2, down o2u2o4u4o2u2o2, up o2u2o4u4o2u2o2,
down u1o2u2o5u5o2u2o2, up u1o2u2o5u5o2u2o2, down u2o2u2o6u6o2u2o2, working end bought around 2 along side standing end your done!!!
i will try to post pix of these and the large and small pampas knots during construction sometime in the next couple of days. hopefully it will help you to follow the instructions.