Members crazytailorlady Posted May 20, 2022 Members Report Posted May 20, 2022 Hi everyone, Lately I've been considering making a leather holder for a small bottle as I need one for my bicycle and I want leather to match the seat. But when I was looking through the Stohlman book I've seen that such a project requires the use of a curved awl and curved needles. Now, I know I can curve needles on my own and I could attempt the same for an awl but I'm always in tool shortage and supply is difficult. My question is, is this the only way to do such "curved" leather projects or is there a method I'm unaware of? Quote
Members billybopp Posted May 20, 2022 Members Report Posted May 20, 2022 You do not necessarily need curved awl and needle. They are nice but not totally necessary. Working from the Stohlman book I've made many beverage can holders using straight awl and needle. You just need to work a little more carefully! The pictures below are some embossing rollers and cases I made for them using the same method. These are considerably smaller and harder to sew than the can cozys. Sorry I can't find pictures of my cozys at the moment - I must have put them into a folder where I wouldn't lose them. All that said, if you DO want to purchase curved needles, they're pretty common - Look for upholsterer's needles. Curved awls are a bit more rare, but they are out there. Look for cobbler tools! - Bill Quote
Contributing Member fredk Posted May 20, 2022 Contributing Member Report Posted May 20, 2022 3 hours ago, crazytailorlady said: Hi everyone, Lately I've been considering making a leather holder for a small bottle as I need one for my bicycle and I want leather to match the seat. But when I was looking through the Stohlman book I've seen that such a project requires the use of a curved awl and curved needles. Now, I know I can curve needles on my own and I could attempt the same for an awl but I'm always in tool shortage and supply is difficult. My question is, is this the only way to do such "curved" leather projects or is there a method I'm unaware of? Which book? Which section? If you give me that info I could suggest an alternative way of working Quote Al speling misteaks aer all mi own werk..
Members johnnydb Posted May 20, 2022 Members Report Posted May 20, 2022 3 hours ago, crazytailorlady said: Hi everyone, Lately I've been considering making a leather holder for a small bottle as I need one for my bicycle and I want leather to match the seat. But when I was looking through the Stohlman book I've seen that such a project requires the use of a curved awl and curved needles. Now, I know I can curve needles on my own and I could attempt the same for an awl but I'm always in tool shortage and supply is difficult. My question is, is this the only way to do such "curved" leather projects or is there a method I'm unaware of? Curved needles and awls are nice...but truthfully I've never gotten the hang of them. If you are making a standard bicycle water bottle holder for drinking while going down the road that attaches to the frame.... You really don't need curved awls and needles. I'm unfamiliar with the pattern but I am familiar with the bottle and setup. Personally I'd use veg tanned framing of the piece that was wet molded to the shape and then glue on chrome tanned and make a visible seam in the veg tan. Don't forget the attachment straps....and I'm unsure about using snaps vs buckles vs velcro. It's gotta fit snug to keep from slipping. Have fun! Sounds like a great project! Quote
Members Tugadude Posted May 20, 2022 Members Report Posted May 20, 2022 Nice to see another bicycle person here. Do you have a particular style in mind? There are many ways to accomplish what you are trying to do, but it would help if you could share some more detailed expectations. Maybe you can find a picture of what you are hoping to replicate? Quote
CFM chuck123wapati Posted May 20, 2022 CFM Report Posted May 20, 2022 i have cut off needles to make them shorter for stuff like this. Quote Worked in a prison for 30 years if I aint shiny every time I comment its no big deal, I just don't wave pompoms. “I won’t be wronged, I won’t be insulted, and I won’t be laid a hand on. I don’t do these things to other people, and I require the same from them.” THE DUKE!
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Members blue duck Posted May 20, 2022 Members Report Posted May 20, 2022 Perhaps try a different stitch. I have used a 'baseball' stitch with good results. Quote May God Smile on you today.
Members crazytailorlady Posted May 21, 2022 Author Members Report Posted May 21, 2022 18 hours ago, chrisash said: See The method I same in the book used a wooden mold and I think thats why the curved tools were needed but this looks very promising. I wonder if it would work with thicker, stiffer leather like what I have but I will definitely try this. Quote
Members crazytailorlady Posted May 21, 2022 Author Members Report Posted May 21, 2022 18 hours ago, Tugadude said: Nice to see another bicycle person here. Do you have a particular style in mind? There are many ways to accomplish what you are trying to do, but it would help if you could share some more detailed expectations. Maybe you can find a picture of what you are hoping to replicate? I guess I was vague there. I wanted a stiff, all leather (no wires) cyllindrical holder with straps so I can secure it to the tube, though im still deciding wether to put it on the seat tube or the downtube. I want it to fit about half of the bottle, maybe a bit more. I have some thick, stiff veg tan to work with. Quote
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