Members Cowboyleatherman Posted September 9, 2022 Members Report Posted September 9, 2022 (edited) Bump jigs are used in leather craft however the term "bump jig" is readily used in wood working and machinery bumping the jig against the wood/metal but called a "positioning square" to make it simple to square or find the true angle of an object to cut, position, or shape. In terms of the word, its relatively new word in leathercraft but other tools in the wood working/machinery trade have been around for a long time and have been used in leatherwork. Mascon Leather & Zeebeeleather has introduced the relatively new term to the industry combining tools of other mechanical trades to the leather industry combining old tools to the leatherwork help tools as helpful guides.There is no term or definition as so called a "bump Jig" as a defined term in any dictionary or thesaurus at this time. This is not a new concept, but the combination of old with the new is great. Because it takes the guessing game to a whole new level of precision if used correctly as well as understanding your measuring tools and jigs. Edited September 9, 2022 by Cowboyleatherman Correction Quote
CFM chuck123wapati Posted September 10, 2022 CFM Report Posted September 10, 2022 ok and...... ? macon and zeebee have some expensive stuff 2 squares for 95 bucks what makes them worth that much they are just aluminum squares. Quote Worked in a prison for 30 years if I aint shiny every time I comment its no big deal, I just don't wave pompoms. “I won’t be wronged, I won’t be insulted, and I won’t be laid a hand on. I don’t do these things to other people, and I require the same from them.” THE DUKE!
Doc Reaper Posted September 10, 2022 Report Posted September 10, 2022 I paid like $38 and they are not square, spend the money for a good set, and slowly get the accessories but watch the vids and see what you can get without pawning off your first born Quote Doc Reaper
CFM chuck123wapati Posted September 10, 2022 CFM Report Posted September 10, 2022 8 minutes ago, Doc Reaper said: I paid like $38 and they are not square, spend the money for a good set, and slowly get the accessories but watch the vids and see what you can get without pawning off your first born See now that is what i worry about. But! lol I gots me some tools, i can make em outa bout anythin fer a little bit o nuthin. Quote Worked in a prison for 30 years if I aint shiny every time I comment its no big deal, I just don't wave pompoms. “I won’t be wronged, I won’t be insulted, and I won’t be laid a hand on. I don’t do these things to other people, and I require the same from them.” THE DUKE!
Doc Reaper Posted September 10, 2022 Report Posted September 10, 2022 16 minutes ago, chuck123wapati said: See now that is what i worry about. But! lol I gots me some tools, i can make em outa bout anythin fer a little bit o nuthin. I didn’t purchase Zee Bee products, it was some guy on Etsy and he was mad because I reported that the jigs weren’t square, his reply was “That Little bit off won’t even show!” He should of offered to send a different set, the set I have is off by enough to see, stay away from Etsy, you will save money Quote Doc Reaper
Members dikman Posted September 10, 2022 Members Report Posted September 10, 2022 Pretty poor response, he's admitting his products are in the "close enough is good enough" class! As for the OP, it left me scratching my head, wondering what was the point? That you can use tools from other trades for leatherwork? Nothing new there. Quote Machines wot I have - Singer 51W59; Singer 331K4; Seiko STH-8BLD; Pfaff 335; CB4500. Chinese shoe patcher; Singer 201K (old hand crank)
Members mike02130 Posted September 10, 2022 Members Report Posted September 10, 2022 5 minutes ago, dikman said: Pretty poor response, he's admitting his products are in the "close enough is good enough" class! As for the OP, it left me scratching my head, wondering what was the point? That you can use tools from other trades for leatherwork? Nothing new there. Are you familiar with Mascon and his YouTube? I think what the OP is coyly saying, is that Mascon is not all that he believes he is. He is quite the showman and a large portion of his followers are a younger Reddit crowd new to leather work and easily impressed. If one didn't know better, they may think that he invented the word bump jig, it's design and their use. I suggest you watch his hustle and you may be scratching your head less over the OP's post and scratching more over the Mascon's sale's pitch. Quote @mike02130 Instagram
CFM tsunkasapa Posted September 11, 2022 CFM Report Posted September 11, 2022 Never saw the need for anything like that, not even for woodworking. Leatherwork? Not in the least. Quote Hoka Hey! Today, tomorrow, next week, what does it matter?
Members Grumpymann Posted September 11, 2022 Members Report Posted September 11, 2022 Corter Leather Has a good example. And a good (IMHO) take on the bump jig thing here. Quote
Members battlemunky Posted September 11, 2022 Members Report Posted September 11, 2022 I think, from Mascon's POV, that if you are making things repeatedly and using card stock templates, once you get the hang of using bump jigs you can reduce variation and improve your overall quality. It does suck that he is selling such mundane items for such premium money, but that is why I don't have his brand... From Corter's perspective, if you have been using card stock templates and are as good with cutting out with an exacto knife, why waste the effort in time and expense fiddling with bump jigs. After all, his statement about how the leather is going to morph once you stick some cards in it and start carrying it (wallets, specifically but applies to most items too) so being exact to the point of using hundred dollar bump jigs just seems like a luxury. My most sincere hope is that they don't start wallowing in the mud and things get all dramatic. I enjoy both of their channels and have learned a ton from both. I really don't want a "bump jig" rift to form between two crafters I really appreciate. Mascon & ZeeBee's leather ruler has my interest piqued, not gonna lie. So. Much. Money. though... Quote
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