Rifle Sling: Chicago Screws-2 or 1 per end?

[SpruceMoose]

I've been making rifle slings for a while. While many designs out there only have one screw per end, I like to double up as a fail safe, they do come unscrewed i'm guessing with use and not checking them.

What do you folks think? Overkill?  

Edited July 17, 2023 by SpruceMoose

[fredk]

Certainly not 'overkill'. Two CS I reckon. Good ones, well fitted. Use thread-lock on them. CS are cheap, a rifle is not

[Dwight]

I only put one per end . . . as I put the blank end on a red paper eraser . . . and seriously push down and screw tight with my screwdriver on the other side.

If I can . . . I try to talk them into a woven . . . 4 hole . . . leather thong.  THEY don't come loose.

Never had one come loose yet . . . and when I've gone back to change something . . . it has been a pain at times.

May God bless,

Dwight

[Hags]

I use 2, with loctite.

[TomE]

A latigo knot would be a decorative way to secure the ends of the sling.  It is used for the cinch strap of a western saddle.  Starts with 3 holes in a triangular shape and a piece of latigo string.  This video shows a fancy knot.  A simpler version is to run the 2 ends through the top hole then secure the ends under the span between the 2 bottom holes.

  

 

[chuck123wapati]

`The old saying, one is none and two are one. I've attached  them several ways depending on the type of sling build and look wanted. if using Chicago screws i use Loctite and the eraser trick. they do come loose as you said.

[Doc Reaper]

2 hours ago, TomE said:

A latigo knot would be a decorative way to secure the ends of the sling.  It is used for the cinch strap of a western saddle.  Starts with 3 holes in a triangular shape and a piece of latigo string.  This video shows a fancy knot.  A simpler version is to run the 2 ends through the top hole then secure the ends under the span between the 2 bottom holes.

  

 

It is probably a nice looking knot, but it’s all so dark it’s impossible to see what was done. Can someone use a white shoelace on a light brown piece of cardboard? I have never seen this knot

[SpruceMoose]

14 hours ago, fredk said:

Certainly not 'overkill'. Two CS I reckon. Good ones, well fitted. Use thread-lock on them. CS are cheap, a rifle is not

12 hours ago, Dwight said:

I only put one per end . . . as I put the blank end on a red paper eraser . . . and seriously push down and screw tight with my screwdriver on the other side.

If I can . . . I try to talk them into a woven . . . 4 hole . . . leather thong.  THEY don't come loose.

Never had one come loose yet . . . and when I've gone back to change something . . . it has been a pain at times.

May God bless,

Dwight

11 hours ago, Hags said:

I use 2, with loctite.

2 hours ago, chuck123wapati said:

`The old saying, one is none and two are one. I've attached  them several ways depending on the type of sling build and look wanted. if using Chicago screws i use Loctite and the eraser trick. they do come loose as you said.

2 hours ago, TomE said:

A latigo knot would be a decorative way to secure the ends of the sling.  It is used for the cinch strap of a western saddle.  Starts with 3 holes in a triangular shape and a piece of latigo string.  This video shows a fancy knot.  A simpler version is to run the 2 ends through the top hole then secure the ends under the span between the 2 bottom holes.

  

 

 

 

Thank you for all the suggestions, I do like the thronged knot, saddle knot combination, and have used lock tite in the past. My only issue with both is that i do not include the swivel mount hardware with the slings(they are $30+ for a good set), I wouldn't mind doing so as I sell slings 200cad and up range, but not everyone uses the same mounts. The customer has to be able to attach the sling. 

Some guns out there are worth more than anything i own, so i like to ensure i am selling a product that is secure. The chicago screws i'm using seem to be of good quality. Solid brass, 1/4 inch, buckleguy.

I think maybe 2 per end or a combination with an easier saddle knot( something that will hold tight, and the customer can do, ship laced but loose)

Anyone know what the knot pictured below might be called? Maybe that is what you are referring to Dwight?  I just noticed, I often do not see this lace knot on both ends, I would think one would want to, but the amount of holes on the adjustable end would get wildly out of hand.

Side question,  I've researched this forum thoroughly, and have come up with varying conclusions on average sling lengths, any opinions? I make Cobra style for now, (and am setting up to make M1907). I make a standard cobra and an xl length one, all adjustable. I just like to be sure that i am in range of the standard sizing. Most customers read the description of exact sizing and measurements anyways, but good to be sure with so much varying 'standard' sizing info out there, as well as many buy them for gifts that may not be gun users.

(Photo from 7X Leather, not my own, for reference).  

Thanks everyone.

-Cheyenne

 

 

[Northmount]

1 hour ago, Doc Reaper said:

It is probably a nice looking knot, but it’s all so dark it’s impossible to see what was done. Can someone use a white shoelace on a light brown piece of cardboard? I have never seen this knot

 

[TomE]

59 minutes ago, SpruceMoose said:

Anyone know what the knot pictured below might be called? 

Can't see the knot in the picture very well but I think it's a blood knot/bleed knot.