What is Mycelium Leather? Does it exist?

[chuck123wapati]

22 minutes ago, Sheilajeanne said:

 

Nature abhors a vacuum. 

yup and the climate never quits getting either hotter or colder depending on the cycles. we cant change that either and science models cant reproduce the variables associated with those changes to make any kind of rational guess. Wyoming was once a subtropical swamp full of reptiles as big as houses now it is a desert full of mammals. We cant stop nature.

[SUP]

@chuck123wapati Yes. The one thing we humans should not forget, for all our arrogance, is that we are animals too. We are as dispensable as the dinosaurs and other now extinct life forms. The earth will recover from  most of our idiocy; humans, probably not. In fact, I often think the earth and its flora and fauna would be better off if we were all extinct.

@Sheilajeanne I have moved around so much, I do not have the advantage of seeing the world change as time passes. I wish I did. What a sense of continuity that must be - you have seen what was before, you see what is, now, and can pass that to those coming in.

@purplefox LOL. Most of us are in that camp! 

@Sheilajeanne I agree about Chinese food. I think most food, when shared with other communities and cultures, is modified to suit those tastes. 

[Sheilajeanne]

Chuck, 97% of scientists say that our world is warming up due to increased CO2 emissions. So, you believe they're all wrong? CO2 level have fluctuated over thousands of years, and the temperature has gone up and down accordingly, but never like this:

 

 If it were not for CO2 in our atmosphere, the sun's radiation would just go back out into space, and we'd have a cold, barren planet. CO2 absorbs the radiation reflected off the earth's surface, and turns it into a form of heat that can warm the atmosphere and ground. Unfortunately, this means, the higher the CO2 levels, the more heat is absorbed, and the hotter the planet is going to get. 

[Handstitched]

I just knew I should have got the popcorn out

10 hours ago, chuck123wapati said:

I would post a pic but it would just be torture for you lol. 

After reading that, you're probably right , lol 

9 hours ago, Sheilajeanne said:

Wild cows, sheep, goats and pigs just wandering around, munching on the vegan's precious crops?

Some animals still need to be cared for, whether they get eaten or not, especially sheep , common breeds need to be shorn . I've seen sheep that have been left behind, the fleece is so over grown they cant see out, and so heavy they can hardly walk. ( google ' shrek the sheep ' ) 

6 hours ago, purplefox66 said:

I am a member of peta.

People eating tasty animals 

Thats going to stick with me now 

HS

[Burkhardt]

18 hours ago, chrisash said:

Some on here seem to have closed minds on modern alternatives, no one is insisting you use alternatives

If it's not insisting to be a alternative to leather then why is be associated to vegans? Why isn't it just a alternative product without the association to vegans.

[chrisash]

4 hours ago, Burkhardt said:

If it's not insisting to be a alternative to leather then why is be associated to vegans? Why isn't it just a alternative product without the association to vegans.

Dwight associated it with vegans, the op just asked a question and everyone just got on there high horses about basically nothing apart from leather should be used. funny nobody picked up on Linin thread and Poly threads both totally accepted by a massive majority of leather workers

[Handstitched]

I recently worked with vinyl, does that count ?    

[kgg]

 

13 hours ago, Sheilajeanne said:

So, you believe they're all wrong?

If I remember correctly about 20 years ago weren't all the "experts" saying we were headed for another Ice age. That scare didn't work so they are onto another be afraid. To help reduce the CO2 the main contributors would need to reduce their emissions, China, US and India. However that is going to come at a price of manufacturing all items for the worlds population. Taxing the average joe with carbon taxes isn't going to do anything worth while. People will still need food, transportation, housing, etc.

kgg

[chuck123wapati]

13 hours ago, Sheilajeanne said:

Chuck, 97% of scientists say that our world is warming up due to increased CO2 emissions. So, you believe they're all wrong? CO2 level have fluctuated over thousands of years, and the temperature has gone up and down accordingly, but never like this:

 

 If it were not for CO2 in our atmosphere, the sun's radiation would just go back out into space, and we'd have a cold, barren planet. CO2 absorbs the radiation reflected off the earth's surface, and turns it into a form of heat that can warm the atmosphere and ground. Unfortunately, this means, the higher the CO2 levels, the more heat is absorbed, and the hotter the planet is going to get. 

you forgot this, the caption, as well as most of the story co2 levels before 800,00 years have at times been much higher and as the caption states the data is iffy at best. Your comment is just more proof that this subject is highly misled by those pushing an un proven theory and are to uncaring to actually do their own research on the subject. 

It is undeniable that the climate is an extremely complicated system with many factors that we still do not quite understand, so such statements need to be taken with a grain of salt. Moreover, the further we look back, the more uncertainty there is around the data. Robust evidence “only” spans back 800,000 years thanks to ice cores providing high-resolution records in the form of air bubbles trapped under the freezing snow. 

lol 97% of scientists aren't even climate scientists so don't believe all the bs your fed. But 97% of any funding goes directly to proving climate change science projects which BTW pays the wages of scientists. Plants utilize co2, it benefits them, and as you can plainly see the earth doesn't have more plant life than ever before. I'll refer back to my fifth grade science and the petri dish theory. 

 

[SUP]

That the earth is warming up is true. We can see the results. Surely no one can think that all the climatic changes, the increasing number of natural disasters  happening the world over are planted in the media, as a massive conspiracy.! And it is happening because of human actions. 

There are records and geological evidence other than ice cores that indicate changing climate patterns, going back further than 800,000 years. There are ways to determine time scales.  But that does not mean that global warming is not causing serious harm. After all, all through these millions of years there were no humans to destroy everything in their path - that is what we do, sadly. So we really cannot apply what has happened over the millennia to what is happening now, other than to compare, like the scientists are doing now, and realize that this is unprecedented.

And not everything is a conspiracy @chuck123wapati. No one makes up so much stuff just to get a salary - other than the section of the media that make everything into a conspiracy.

It's all very well to bury one's head in the sand, when one is living in areas which will be the last to be excessively affected by climate changes, like we do. For people in places like the Maldives, for example, who face loss of their entire country, it is reality. Bangladesh faces  loss of lands as does India and many other parts of the world. The US coastline too, for that matter, is threatened.

@kgg You are right. Scientists see changes happening and literally bumble around, trying to find the cause. They are often mistaken and then work their way to determining the actual causes - it could take years or decades, but they are at least trying.  It happens all the time. 

5 hours ago, chrisash said:

everyone just got on there high horses about basically nothing apart from leather should be used.

Hardly. People have been speaking about their own preferences and what they themselves would use - personal choice - not what others should use.

Edited November 16, 2023 by SUP