seabee Report post Posted December 20, 2023 Anyone using, and how do you like or dislike? Howard Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cattleman Report post Posted January 7 Yeah I use the Outlaw. I like it so far (2 years). It is a little finicky about thread tension... Once you find that sweet spot, mark or lock it in place, same with the stitch length adjustment. I went to my local hardware store and bought a few nuts that I use as jam nuts to lock the tension and stitch length adjustments in place. Very easy to set up and use. Will definitely give you an arm workout stitching a belt. But being able to get it done in 10 mins instead of several hours makes it worth the slightly sore arm. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dwight Report post Posted January 7 Have a Tippmann Boss I've had for 20+ years . . . replaced it's work with a Cowboy 4500 . . . Looked at the Outlaw . . . and it looks like a cheap chinese copy of the Boss. Mind you that is an opinion . . . based on observation . . . The Boss is tried and true . . . the Outlaw . . . well . . . there is it's name. May God bless, Dwight Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AlZilla Report post Posted January 7 @Dwight, I didn't realize the 2 were so close in spec. I like the look of the Outlaw (and the name) more than the Boss. The feed type seems to be a bit different, just at a glance. I started out wanting to machine sew leather. Ended up with a 111W while looking at the Outlaw. Something about no electricity appeals to me. Ended up with a 441 clone just because of the small incremental money to get to the next level machine up. I just screenshotted this pic from a Tippman Industrial video and now I want one mounted on a bench like this in a small trailer workshop! Sorry for the rabbit trail ... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Northmount Report post Posted January 7 Moved to leather sewing machines Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dwight Report post Posted January 7 3 hours ago, AlZilla said: @Dwight, I didn't realize the 2 were so close in spec. I like the look of the Outlaw (and the name) more than the Boss. The feed type seems to be a bit different, just at a glance. I started out wanting to machine sew leather. Ended up with a 111W while looking at the Outlaw. Something about no electricity appeals to me. Ended up with a 441 clone just because of the small incremental money to get to the next level machine up. I just screenshotted this pic from a Tippman Industrial video and now I want one mounted on a bench like this in a small trailer workshop! Sorry for the rabbit trail ... Not quite the same . . . but for years this did all my sewing . . . still have it set up like this . . . can remove the little flat table just by taking off a C clamp . . . but rarely found a need to do that. May God bless, Dwight Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dikman Report post Posted January 7 Pretty good set up you've got there for it Dwight. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stetson912 Report post Posted January 9 Well, im no expert nor do I own either machine. But in my research I'd vote for the outlaw. It's has a cast iron housing instead of cast aluminum, Has all steel internal parts, and you can call or email the guy who created the machine Ryan Neel. It also has 3 more inches of throat clearance and boasts nearly identical sewing specs to the boss. For me it seems like a better built machine, at least where materials are concerned. My opinion only of course. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maggielj Report post Posted January 11 @Dwight Really like the set up you've got goin on there, The grid seems like it would be super convenient. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dwight Report post Posted January 11 1 hour ago, maggielj said: @Dwight Really like the set up you've got goin on there, The grid seems like it would be super convenient. Thanks maggie . . . it is as a matter of fact . . . . May God bless, Dwight Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bigsig11010 Report post Posted January 11 I have the outlaw and have been using it for a couple years. I really like it. I haven't found any negatives so far. Built like a tank. Simple to operate even for me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites