Okay, seriously .

[Colt W Knight]

I do pretty good with picture tutorials when I can use Photobucket to host my pictures, but editing video takes me forever. I can understand why most folks have long and long winded videos because when you are put on the spot in front of a camera, you can never remember what to say or you stutter or forget the impressive word you were thinking of using. What happens? You get nervous and ramble, then you don't want to spend hours editing the video. At least that is why I hate doing videos.

A friend of mine asked me to make a tutorial on how I made some bourbon bottle lamps, so I decided to do a quick video because most of the stuff I saw online didn't have very nice lamps.

This 3:30 minute video took me hours to shoot, edit, and upload. As far as videos go, it isn't very good.

 

[JMWendt]

Just to add a comment here on the recursive state of the internet at this point, we are getting to the point where it isn't meta-data anymore, but it is now metameta-data, or even cubic-meta-data.  If you do a search for "How to Make YouTube Videos" there are literally hundreds of YouTubers out there who have gone out of their way to make videos to help others make videos for YouTube.  I did not specifically search for videos about how to make videos about making videos, but I'm sure there is at least one of those in that list.  "Hey guys, here's my video about how you can make a video about making a video about making videos on YouTube!"  Yeah.  That one.

Sure, YouTube can be helpful for obtaining some information or seeing some knowledge demonstrated . . . for example, when a buddy brought me a Marlin rifle he could not get back together.  I looked it up on YouTube and we had it assembled in thirty seconds.  But that was a year ago.  If you ask me how we got that rifle together today, I couldn't tell you now.  I don't know.  I used the information at the time and reassembled the gun once, but didn't learn anything.  Of course, I don't own that gun, so I can do it again (and again).  And to be clear, we didn't even watch the entire video . . . we popped to the part where he slid the pin in place and that was it.

Information is not knowledge, and knowledge is not wisdom.  Information can be absorbed through watching, and is typically ephemeral.  Knowledge and wisdom are gotten through doing, and they are mostly retained.  In fact, I would posit that the likelihood that information becomes knowledge is directly proportional to the duration of one's wonderment about the subject matter at hand.  Similarly, the likelihood that I will gain knowledge and wisdom from YouTube is virtually zero.  I get the knowledge and wisdom by doing, not watching.

The internet has nearly eradicated any duration on wonderment.  We no longer ponder what we do not know and really familiarize ourselves with the fullness of our lack of knowledge, and we no longer carry that lack of knowledge with us long enough to be invested in finally knowing.  We just wonder for a second, look it up on the internet, then move on and forget we ever wondered about that in the first place.  And when I say "we", I mean everybody else.  Because I don't use the internet.  Right?

 

 

 

[bikermutt07]

This reminds me of a story. Being a tradesman I'm always looking for improvement in different areas. I once ran a granite department and ran across a house being remodeled. We had to deliver different counters throughout a long drug out schedule. During this time I met this kid. He was maybe 22 or 23. I noticed his work on various parts of the project. He set the cabinets, installed the trim, did all the tile work (including some very impressive floor to raked ceiling showers). He did all the wood and tile floors. I kept thinking to myself, how does this kid know so much. Well, when He did the handrail on the entry staircase that was it I had to ask. I said, "man, I don't want to insult you but, how the hell did you learn all this stuff?"

He pulled out his phone, and simply replied, "dude, YouTube". He went on to say as each thing came up, the owners asked him if he could do it? He researched the projects and let them know what tools he needed.

Now, I know you have to have some raw talent to do that. And the kid was definitely smart. He made a career for himself off of frigging YouTube.

Last time I ran into him he was running a crew for that same family as they bought and flipped homes.

If properly applied, YouTube can be very useful.

[particle]

I used to watch Norm Abrams on The New Yankee Workshop every morning before work while I was getting ready. I knew nothing about woodworking at the time, but nearly everything I know, I learned from watching his TV show (and later reading books & magazines, and more recently YouTube). Sure, I didn't absorb everything he taught, but I picked up bits and pieces, and learned alternate ways to accomplish the same thing - with expensive tools, with cheap tools, with hand tools, etc.

Some people are simply thirsty for knowledge. When I first started with leather working, I devoured everything I could find on the internet and watched untold hours of related videos on YouTube. I don't seek them out like I used to, but when I'm trying to learn something new, I welcome those long videos and appreciate the time and energy spent producing them.

[JMWendt]

Sure, you guys . . . like I said, you got the information from YouTube, but then you did it . . . practice.  The information is there, and it's great.  You used to have to go find people to get it.  Now you cna just watch.  But you still have to follow through and do it a few times to really lock it in and make it knowledge.

[bikermutt07]

2 minutes ago, JMWendt said:

Sure, you guys . . . like I said, you got the information from YouTube, but then you did it . . . practice.  The information is there, and it's great.  You used to have to go find people to get it.  Now you cna just watch.  But you still have to follow through and do it a few times to really lock it in and make it knowledge.

That's certainly true. I also know some folks who just sit around watching YouTube on their tv. That seems pretty pointless to me. 

I use it as a tool in my toolbox.

[immiketoo]

As a guy who produces videos for leatherworkers, I can see both sides of the story.  And, as Ive learned, my product has gotten better.  I only hire those who know what they're doing AND know how to teach.  I have watched everything there is on the web, and there IS a need and desire for video classes.  This is excellent discourse and it helps people like me keep focused.  I edit out all unnecessary drivel, and I try to keep my instructors on point during class.  Because so many of them are professionals, they know how to get to the point.

Someone above mentioned folks being afraid to try, and this is something I have observed as well.  Drives me nuts.  We answer the same questions time and time again, but thats what being stewards of leatherwork are for, right?  So, I'll keep answering, and I'll keep pointing folks to videos that can answer those questions, whether they're mine or someone else's.

 

There are three major types of learning.  Visual, auditory and hands on or doing.  Everyone has some combination of the three, so trying to present material that is easy to digest can be problematic, and as Colt mentioned, the editing of the videos takes far longer than the recording itself.  Anyway, this topic is near and dear to me.  Hope we all keep moving forward though

[electrathon]

On ‎6‎/‎4‎/‎2016 at 7:38 AM, JLSleather said:

I can't grasp what I would learn from watching someone saddle stitch for an hour.  Okay, make a stitch line (or a gouge).  Fair enough. Now, stab with the awl on the line so it comes out the line on the back side. All good.  Now, left thread through, now right thread through, pull up.  All great. Now, do it again.

Now, do it again.

Now, do it again.

Now, do it again.

Now, do it again.

Now, do it again.

Now, do it again.

    

I teach a lot of classes, it would amaze you how many times I have spent two hours trying to get the person to understand what is written above.  They will use the same hole twice.  Will move left thread forwards one hole, right thread forward two.  Tie knots in the thread.  Pull both threads in from the same side.  Loop both threads over the outside edge, etc.

[Art]

Do I wish some makers of YouTube videos could find and use editing software? Yes.  Do I wish YouTube video makers would use cameramen?  Oh yeah, it is just so much fun when the most important operation in the video is demonstrated totally out of frame.  Then the idiot tells you that he has demonstrated the most important concept in the whole video or even the most important thing in the whole discipline, and tells you to go back and review it.  But worst of all is when the YouTube video producer honestly doesn't have a clue how to professionally do what he is trying to teach.  If you haven't done a few hundred or a few thousand of them, don't try to teach one.

There are however several good qualities.  One is that a high percentage of YouTube videos are really better in effect, and better for you physically than Ambien.  My Doctor put me onto this.  The longer the video the better.

More power to those who provide us with these gems.

Art

[JLSleather]

Yeah, I'm still at the point of 'if it aint for you, don't watch it'.  

In all the videos I've seen, I actually recommend ONE of them.  And I recommend it because of one simple fact:  at the end of the video, you could actually DO what you were supposed to learn from the video.  Doesn't mean everyone will do it, but they COULD.  If what you were told you would learn isn't there, then it's just useless noise.

If the next guy wants to watch a bunch of videos, that's -- as they say -- no skin off my nose   But, I might be able to show 'em how-to WITHOUT that poo