Dürkopp 18 Patcher Restoration - long journey...

[shoepatcher]

Let me check.  The red paint does not look cool in my opinion. I will check this weekend.  Too busy today.

glenn

Edited January 24, 2020 by shoepatcher
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[dikman]

5 hours ago, shoepatcher said:

The red paint does not look cool in my opinion.

I agree. Some people have strange ideas about painting things.

[Bert51]

Looks like you are being warned to stay away from it?

Bert.

[Constabulary]

On 1/24/2020 at 8:26 AM, Constabulary said:

You have a Dürkopp Class 17 with a needle plate that most likely comes from a Singer 29K - Interesting modification!

I have to revise this - seems some Class 17 models actually came with this type of needle plate. I have learned something new! The class 17 came in some variants as it seems (probably even beside the sub classes). Unfortunately finding information on these models quite a challenge.

[MikeRock]

What a wonderful way to begin the day.   I have a very nice old Durkopp 17 with that exact needle plate.  I will get some Christmas ornaments off the top of it and get some photos today.  Next to it is my 29-4 that needs a screw for the bobbin carrier.   Now I can start finding the few parts I need to make both run again.  The 29-4 came from a friend who did automotive upholstery until Agent Orange claimed him some thirty years ago.  I took out a piece from curiosity......now maybe I can replace it.  Bad habit...note to self, "Don't take stuff apart.....that you can't put back together in ten minutes".... 

The Durkopp followed me home from the Midwest Horse Fair in Madison, WI a few years back.  Just need a threading diagram I think.

God bless

[rustyhorse15]

Thank you for the information! Every little bit helps! 

I did receive it in this condition, not sure either why someone would paint all this red! After much research, I have decided it’s not going to be the right machine for me to sew heavy leather, I would like to sell it if anyone interested. Not sure what a decent asking price would be. I’m in Washington state. 

Edited January 26, 2020 by rustyhorse15

[Subterra]

I have always loved this machine because once I had it serviced and adjusted for poly thread and the tips on the bobbin shuttles added to due to wear, it worked well for 1,000s of biker patches I sewed on.  We also had two Singer 29-4 machines but my first love has been this machine.  My wife and I literally earned this machine by riding and helping on summer camp trail rides at a summer horse camp. It was gathering dust in the tack room.  It is nice to know the model is a 17???  I was told at one time that it was built around the mid 1880's... is that correct? 

In the 25 years of owning this machine, I have discovered the most important thing to do is to keep it lubed.  It will also start skipping stitches and wadding up the thread from the bobbin under the project if you don't keep it lubed. Also due to using poly thread these days, the loop piece just to the left of the oiler ended up cut clear through and had to be replaced and I actually manufactured a new one out of a coat hangar. The top eye also was being cut through by the poly so I found a couple of inserts made of ceramic to stop the cutting of the thread.  Like my grandpa used to say... "if it ain't movin' grease it."  I totally agree! Don't know what this machine is worth these days, but is is a gem.

[Constabulary]

Its indeed a Class 17 but here are several subclasses.

[CowboyBob]

On 1/26/2020 at 8:40 AM, MikeRock said:

What a wonderful way to begin the day.   I have a very nice old Durkopp 17 with that exact needle plate.  I will get some Christmas ornaments off the top of it and get some photos today.  Next to it is my 29-4 that needs a screw for the bobbin carrier.   Now I can start finding the few parts I need to make both run again.  The 29-4 came from a friend who did automotive upholstery until Agent Orange claimed him some thirty years ago.  I took out a piece from curiosity......now maybe I can replace it.  Bad habit...note to self, "Don't take stuff apart.....that you can't put back together in ten minutes".... 

The Durkopp followed me home from the Midwest Horse Fair in Madison, WI a few years back.  Just need a threading diagram I think.

God bless

Here's some pics of the carrier from a Singer & Claese. the Durkopp  has a .030 larger center hole & the teeth are further apart on the Durkopp too.

[Oluffen]

Hi again!

Since I´m about to try and get some needles for the Claes & Flentje you helped me with just the other day. I was thinking of trying to get some needles for another project as well. That project happens to be a Durkopp Cl 18. (Or possibly Cl 17) The label on it says Durkopp and the letters D. R. G. M. followed by the number 132 492. (I think I have found what I think is a serialnumber:  4 570)

I have found manuals for both of them (in German) but as I understand from them the 17 use system 88 needles and the 18 use system 657 needles. But somewhere I think I read that the 18 can use both of them and I also read something about that the 88 shold be 88 Long?

First of all, do you know the difference between Cl 17 and 18 as machines or can you help me guess what I have?

And then we have the obvious question!  How to find needles! :-) 

(In my opinion the 17 and 18 are so very much alike each other so I think it would be strange if they don´t take the same needles, so maybe both 88 and 657 will work, but I think both of those systems are discontinued!?