Members DreamFactory Posted March 20, 2018 Members Report Posted March 20, 2018 (edited) On 2018. 3. 13. at 9:05 AM, veedub3 said: I like the concept, I saw this last year some time and started engineering a similar one to cut out on my CNC machine. I apparently shelved the project, as I forgot all about it until this post. I think it may be time for me to dust it off and get back to working on it. I like the fact that it attaches to a table, I didn't like that it was made out of laminated plywood. My prototype is out of MDF because it's cheap, but the finished product will definitely be a hard wood. Let us know how you like it after you have put it through it's paces. Karina It's a product that's developed with wisdom to live on. It's a good idea to try, but don't sell it. And it's being made out of walnut. Please protect my intellectual property. dream factory lee ho myoung Edited March 20, 2018 by DreamFactory Quote
Members veedub3 Posted March 21, 2018 Members Report Posted March 21, 2018 22 hours ago, DreamFactory said: It's a product that's developed with wisdom to live on. It's a good idea to try, but don't sell it. And it's being made out of walnut. Please protect my intellectual property. dream factory lee ho myoung If you read and understood my post I clearly stated I was making one SIMILAR! Not a knock off of yours. You are not the first person to make a stitching pony that attaches to a table, and I sure won't be the last to try this. I am not making a copy of your design. Make no mistake, the design I come up with will be MY design, and if I choose to sell it or give it away, that is my right. Karina Quote "The only man who makes no mistake, is the man who does nothing." Theodore Roosevelt
Members Bodra Posted March 21, 2018 Members Report Posted March 21, 2018 (edited) Even fully closed it leaves a little gap at the top? Are you stiching standing or seated cuz imo this sits high when seated or you can tilt it towards yourself? Edited March 21, 2018 by Bodra Quote
Members DreamFactory Posted March 21, 2018 Members Report Posted March 21, 2018 (edited) 5 hours ago, veedub3 said: If you read and understood my post I clearly stated I was making one SIMILAR! Not a knock off of yours. You are not the first person to make a stitching pony that attaches to a table, and I sure won't be the last to try this. I am not making a copy of your design. Make no mistake, the design I come up with will be MY design, and if I choose to sell it or give it away, that is my right. Karina First of all, I sincerely appologize if I hurt your feeling. I thought you are trying to copy my invention. Sorry about misunderstanding. Please keep up the good work. Sincerely, Lee Homyoung Edited March 21, 2018 by DreamFactory Quote
Members seagiant Posted March 21, 2018 Members Report Posted March 21, 2018 1 hour ago, DreamFactory said: First of all, I sincerely appologize if I hurt your feeling. I thought you are trying to copy my invention. Sorry about misunderstanding. Please keep up the good work. Sincerely, Lee Homyoung Hi LOL! Lee you are talking to Americans here. We have invented or improved more things than the rest of the World put together! While I appreciate your workmanship, it is nothing that has not been done many times before in this country! Good luck with your endevours, but this ain't Rocket Science, just shop work! Quote
Members DreamFactory Posted March 21, 2018 Members Report Posted March 21, 2018 52 minutes ago, seagiant said: Hi LOL! Lee you are talking to Americans here. We have invented or improved more things than the rest of the World put together! While I appreciate your workmanship, it is nothing that has not been done many times before in this country! Good luck with your endevours, but this ain't Rocket Science, just shop work! My English is not good. I want to clear up the misunderstanding. I look forward to your kind cooperation. Quote
Contributing Member fredk Posted March 21, 2018 Contributing Member Report Posted March 21, 2018 IF I may jump in: a cobbler which was in a small town near me [sadly closed down these many years] used several clamp-to-table clams. He used a low bench and clamped the clam to it, so it was at seated working height. The object of using them was he clamped the item he was working on in a clam and he could quickly change what he was working on without disturbing it in the clam. The cobbler told me that these clams had been in use since at least the 1930s, he'd inherited them from his fore-fathers. Proving nothing in this Leather-working is new, just slightly different Quote Al speling misteaks aer all mi own werk..
bikermutt07 Posted March 21, 2018 Report Posted March 21, 2018 There is nothing new under the sun..... .....except Doritos Tacos, which, happen to be horrible. How could they take such a wonderful chip and mess it up like that? Quote I'm not paying 80 bucks for a belt!!! It's a strip of leather. How hard could it be? 4 years and 3 grand later.... I have a belt I can finally live with. Stitching is like gravy, it's only great if you make it every day. From Texas but in Bossier City, Louisiana.
Members Webicons Posted March 21, 2018 Members Report Posted March 21, 2018 I think @DreamFactory has every right to be concerned when this thread discusses making copies of his design. It's hard enough to make a living doing leather work without always having to worry about someone stealing either core aspects of your design or just a blatant copy. When people say "similar" all I can think about is Raphael's Lean wallet v. Craft&Lore's Port wallet (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/jamesraphael/the-leantm-essentials-wallet-from-raphael-quality/posts/1286812). Everyone has a right to make their own, it's a free world, i'm just saying, put yourself in his shoes before being indignant and give this guy a break. With all this talk of reverse engineering, any self respecting maker would be concerned. Quote
Members veedub3 Posted March 21, 2018 Members Report Posted March 21, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Webicons said: I think @DreamFactory has every right to be concerned when this thread discusses making copies of his design. There is no mention anywhere in this thread of anyone saying they were copying his design. 1 hour ago, Webicons said: When people say "similar" all I can think about is Raphael's Lean wallet v. Craft&Lore's Port wallet (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/jamesraphael/the-leantm-essentials-wallet-from-raphael-quality/posts/1286812). Oh please, if that's the case then everything anyone of us has ever made is copying someone's work, which isn't the case here. 1 hour ago, Webicons said: With all this talk of reverse engineering, any self respecting maker would be concerned. Where in this thread did anyone say anything about reverse engineering? If this was an original Idea or concept I could understand why someone would get upset, but there are so many images in old leather working books and on google of stitching ponys attached to tables, whose to say this guy didn't get his inspiration form one of those. So does the same apply to him because he made one "similar" to others already on the market or currently being used? This type of design first landed on my radar years ago and it is made by Sheridan called the Colt Stitcher. I decided then I wanted one - but a modified one for my specific needs. I forgot about that until I saw another one clamped to a table last year, and it wasn't even this one, it was the one made by Elfita. Because I have a shop full of tools, and the skills to make one, that is what I decided to do. For the last 3+ years I have simply been laying my stitching pony on it's side and using an Irwin quick clamp to clamp it to my work table. Last year when I saw the Elfita clamp I decided it was time to upgrade that. So I opened up my design software and started engineering/designing one - I just haven't finished it. (a process which is very different from reverse engineering btw.) Karina Edited March 21, 2018 by veedub3 Quote "The only man who makes no mistake, is the man who does nothing." Theodore Roosevelt
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