Lace maker tool

[JLSleather]

just watched videos of some of these tools. I've owned those plastic things.. not looking for another one.  They do wear quite quickly and even when new they aren't much good for cutting leather under 3 oz, and chrome tanned obviously worse than firm leather.

The osborne model looks to be the most reliable (i 'get' it.. a guy can get good with any tool if he uses it enuf), but even that does nothing to bevel the edges of the lace.

Bruce Cheaney got a y-tube showing how he sorta 'free hands' this process - if you can wade through all the "plugs" he does for various vendors of 'things'.  Still, his process uses fairly heavy leather (he didn't say, but that latigo looks to be about 4/5 oz) and is a "feel", not a repeatable process.  I mention it because viewing it could maybe give a fella an idea on how to improve on it.

 

[Mark842]

18 hours ago, JLSleather said:

But the REAL question is, WHERE is the tool that reliably BEVELS the lace?

 

That would be this. This is the $300 gizmo I bought years ago at Sheridan although I didn't buy it to bevel lace it does. Would I spend what they want for it just to bevel lace? I feel foolish spending what I spent for it to cut lace since I can go faster with the $5 Tandy tool. If I was looking to bevel lace I would just make a beveler. 2 Pieces of 2x4 , sharp razor blade mounted at the desired angle between the pieces and a adjustable piece of metal on top to hold the lace where I want it in relation to the blade. I made one before in the past but have no idea what became of it as it was made just to see if I could...never had a need for it.

https://www.gfeller.us/lacemaster.html

[MikeRock]

Mark,

That Gfeller site sure brings back memories.  In the late sixties every geology student at the several mining colleges out west had at least one item made by 'Roy  Gfeller--Casemaker--Polson, MT'. 

I had a Brunton tripod case and the field case with belt.

Thanks, and God bless

[Northmount]

Ernie Cox https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_22mBsfiQO0 lace cutter that was supposed to go into production some years ago.  You may be able to build this yourself. Also demonstrates a beveler.

A comment to the video above refers to " Y-Knot Combination Beveler and Lace Cutter. Not sure if Ernie invented and sold to them or if he took theirs and modified it. Go to Y-Knotlace.com "

Simple cutter from DavidMorgan.com  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7LV8IHU7lw

A DIY version https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbdEvLOLpCo

Lots of interesting contraptions you can build for cutting, skiving, and beveling lace on the web and on youtube.

Have fun

Tom

 

 

 

[JLSleather]

Yeah, see - I'm a gimme the stuff already beveled type.  But I suppose if they cut teh lace AND bevel it, then they can't sell you a beveler?

[bullmoosepaddles]

YouTube has numerous how to's on lace cutting. If you want a lace beveler search bernie46, or click the link. I have several friends who use those type stranders and bevelers with great success. I would suggest making yours from a scrap of some sort of very dense hardwood. It will last longer. Buy high quality injector style blades two of the whip makers I know even hone their injector blades for extra sharpness and longevity of reuse. 

Bernie is no longer with us, cancer claimed him a few years back. While his legacy of teaching remains. I can attest to the flight of his whips, the boldness of their crack and the love of working leather that he put into each and every bit of braiding he did.     

 

[arashikage]

On 8/27/2019 at 1:24 PM, Grihm said:

Rein rounder ity was called. I call it lace maker in Sweden but i hope it makes sense anyways. Adding a pic.

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A rein rounder is not the same as a lace maker. It doesn't cut, it only compresses the leather into a round shape. There are cheaper models that you secure in a vise instead of the bench top like your pic. You may want to checkout Bruce Johnson's guide on how to use one to make sure that's what you actually want to do.

https://brucejohnsonleather.com/files/8814/0658/3888/BruceJohnsonLeatherTutorialReinRounderUse.pdf

[JLSleather]

I'm not getting how Bernie guaged his width by cutting the INSIDE of the lace, but.... whatever

 

[bullmoosepaddles]

@JLSleatherI went back and looked at all the videos. After his death his family seems to have removed many of his videos. The one I linked to only showed how sized lace was beveled. He had one which showed, using a common aussie strander to rough cut lace to width, stretch it, then use a homemade wooden block to both resize then bevel the lace. Many of his videos show him using both the early wooden version and the upgrade. I will figure out which ones show it in use as time permits.  

A friend of his was a machinist. Bernie asked him to make an aluminum version. Here is the link to the upgraded version..It is very doable in wood with simple hand tools.

I made one in wood for a friend of mine who braids. Some time later he still uses and loves it. 

Hoping this helps to clarify any confusion.  

   

 

Edited September 5, 2019 by bullmoosepaddles
clarity

[JLSleather]

Yeah, i 'git' that. He's cuting to size here, beveling edges later.  Bernie didn't do quite that - I was watchin'.

BUT WHAT them aussie boys talkin' bout thutty five feet?  I thought them down under boys was in meters....

As a former tool maker, gotta wonder why a guy used a chunk of aluminum that big and din't ream a couple hoes for shoulder screws through it holding it down?@!