"vegan" leather suitable for straps?

[blackmad]

Hey all,

A friend asked for a few piece made out of vegan leather. I'm looking for something that's thick/stiff enough to work for straps (bracelets, collars, harnesses) without sewing/gluing. Anyone have a suggestion of where to look / what to look for?

Thanks,

David

[chrisash]

I guess cow leather is Vegan as they only eat grass, but what you should be looking for is Vegtable Tanned leather called Veg Tan often made by tanning with the bark of Oak or other tree bark

You need different thickness for different products

Edited November 4, 2018 by chrisash

[Aven]

Check this thread

 

[blackmad]

4 hours ago, chrisash said:

I guess cow leather is Vegan as they only eat grass, but what you should be looking for is Vegtable Tanned leather called Veg Tan often made by tanning with the bark of Oak or other tree bark

You need different thickness for different products

not sure if you're trying to be funny, but I am looking for faux/vegan/vinyl leather, as in, not from animals.

I recognize this is a leather worker forum, and I primarily work in animal leathers - but I wanted to use the same techniques for someone who objects to wearing leather.

3 hours ago, Aven said:

Check this thread

 

That sadly doesn't give a sense of where to buy, or how to talk about the thickness of faux leathers

[NVLeatherWorx]

Then just go get some vinyl strapping somewhere and use that; there is no such thing as "vegan" leather and we all know that it is just artificial materials that are not within our materials matrix.  Being as you know that this is a leather forum and you work with the real thing you should know better than asking us about the garbage that we all work to replace.  Sorry, but such questions are not best suited for these forums.  Might I suggest that you go to your local Walmart and buy a couple of those fake belts they sell and use those.

[ScoobyNewbie]

Probably you can get plastic/vinyl strapping at sewing stores like Joanne’s, Hancock/Michael’s or such. Many online fabric places have straps. Maybe you can heat the straps or the stamps to melt the vinyl a bit so that you get a leather working effect?

Oh! Polymer clays! You could stamp the shapes into a thin sheet of polymer clay and then adhere it to the bracelet or journal cover, or whatever!

Edited November 5, 2018 by ScoobyNewbie

[chrisash]

Not knowing anything about you and assuming someone had told you to use veg tan and you wrongly thought they told you vegan, your reply is a insult to someone who tried to assist, maybe you could learn to write a more detailed question in future

[JLSleather]

Well, that was weird.  BY DEFINITION (no, really - literally THE definition) leather is "a material made from the skin of an animal by tanning or a similar process."

EDIT:  No, serioously. Really.  "Vegan" leather may have originated with one of those "men" who .. you know what -- nevermind.

Edited November 5, 2018 by JLSleather

[TonySFLDLTHR]

20 hours ago, blackmad said:

Hey all,

A friend asked for a few piece made out of vegan leather. I'm looking for something that's thick/stiff enough to work for straps (bracelets, collars, harnesses) without sewing/gluing. Anyone have a suggestion of where to look / what to look for?

Thanks,

David

 

6 hours ago, chrisash said:

Not knowing anything about you and assuming someone had told you to use veg tan and you wrongly thought they told you vegan, your reply is a insult to someone who tried to assist, maybe you could learn to write a more detailed question in future

5 hours ago, chrisash said:

Not knowing anything about you and assuming someone had told you to use veg tan and you wrongly thought they told you vegan, your reply is a insult to someone who tried to assist, maybe you could learn to write a more detailed question in future

First thing I thought when I saw the OP was that he was meaning Veg Tan as well. I did a quick search and evidently there is popular use of the phrase vegan leather...I assume this is because some people believe that is is possibly more friendly to animals and the environment alike.

A few highlights from this article: 

This leather substitute is used to make clothing, shoes, accessories, upholstery and more. It’s often indistinguishable from the real thing, and is much cheaper to manufacture.... (I can say this would apply to the consumer, because its not that hard to tell the difference).

...is made of scary materials like polyvinyl chloride (PVC), polyurethane and textile-polymer composite microfibres. In other words, generally speaking, ‘vegan leather’ reeks, literally and figuratively, of petroleum. 

It gets worse. Both leather and vegan leather production emit chemicals harmful to environment and factory workers alike.

Despite these eco-horrors, many eco-warriors find vegan leather production even worse. For example, the manufacture and incineration of PVC-based synthetics produce one of the most toxic chemicals known to man: dioxins. Found in almost every single modern human’s body, dioxins promote developmental disturbances and increase cancer risks tenfold.

Some manufacturers, including Valentino and the entire Gucci Group (now known as Kering) are very much aware of the issues surrounding leather production, and have now vowed to use only vegetable dyes, natural tanning processes....

 

All that being said just so we can all be a little more educated of the world around us. Sorry for the long post.

Now we do sell some cork here...it is pretty great to deal with and looks very trendy.

https://www.springfieldleather.com/search?keywords=cork

[chrisash]

So basically they object to eating meat but happy to polute the world slowley killing the entire animal and human population