vegan leather The new trend in leather that they want to create

[migdelysleather25]

In this case, we will talk about a very controversial topic and it is related to the doubts that represent the origin and characteristics of two types of leather, vegetable and vegan. They are the same? Are we really talking about green and sustainable products? 

As a result of the work carried out by the different organizations that fight for the rights of animals for many years, different campaigns have been generated that encourage consumption and the acquisition of products that do not involve animal cruelty in their processes. These campaigns are directed not only to people who practice the vegan lifestyle, but to all those who believe and defend the rights of animals.

to expand the information I leave my post related to ecological leather or vegan leather

[Northmount]

Vegan's are totally against anything that is assumed to harm an animal and in general will not use any animal based items.

Vegetable tanned leather is a method of tanning, not related to Vegans at all.  Vegetable tanned leather uses tannins from various plant sources to tan leather.  Vegetable tanned leather is able to be tooled and molded into various shapes as opposed to other tanning methods.  Do a little research, look up vegetable tanning on Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tanning_(leather)#Vegetable_tanning

Tom

[battlemunky]

If it comes from an animal hide, it is a leather. If it is not leather, it is a fabric or other textile. End of story. There is no such thing as a vegan leather unless you count the fact that cows themselves are vegan, but there are a lot of other leathers than cow leather.

I have been vegan. I am married to one (most of the time, sometimes she eats eggs/dairy). Not all vegans are militant. My wife realizes that leather is mostly a by product of the meat industry and most leathers aren't made specifically for the leather. Not every animal lover/protectionist/ethicist/vegan is like this. Some are rigid and some are far more relaxed. 

I read the article from the OP. Its similar to an advertiser IMO when someone drops in, makes a single post with a link in it and *poof* disappears. 

Liquid leather/nylon leather...Those are super not leather. It's like dehydrated water. It doesn't exist.

@migdelysleather25, this is a "came off an animal" leather forum. Regardless of one's desire to carry or use non-animal products, that what this forum is. It's almost like trying to argue religion here. We WANT to work with leather and I think I can say on behalf of everyone on here that we aren't looking for alternatives to leather and we're pretty good at finding the textiles we need to compliment our products. If you want to learn more about "came off an animal" leather, welcome. If not, please don't try to troll. We all know there are non-leather options out there.

[NVLeatherWorx]

Amen to @battlemunky  I first read the original post much earlier than the rest of you and opted not to say anything until I had a bit to think about it.  I too read it as an attempt to push a product or agenda and still do at this point.  I thank you for your approach on this one.

Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to you and all.

 

[JazzBass]

I too, was going to remain silent on this one. (BIG fail...I feel a diatribe coming on)

Ok - I'm a hypocrite. I do love animals. But the truth is that I often love them on a bun, or on my plate.

I just adopted a litter of cats that found their way into my condo complex, and donate to animal shelters etc., and hope for the day when science will make it possible to "grow a steak" (or hide material) without growing and slaughtering an animal. Fine. Nice wish, and quite sincere, BUT--

We pound animal hides here. I happen to believe that whenever an animal is taken for food, that it is wrong to waste any part of it, and therefor I feel that using the hides is completely justified. To even suggest otherwise, flys in the face of what goes back to before recorded history.

@battlemunky and @NVLeatherWorx are unarguably correct. "Vegan leather"?? Oh c'mon! It's just another feel-good phrase that simply does not comport with any part of reality.

Ditto for "green" and "sustainable". You want "green"? You want to regrow rain forest? I'm all for "global greening". Double the current CO2 levels and adding a few more degrees, resulting in a couple of weeks more to the growing season will do that, and feed millions more people at the same time. Ah, but don't ever look at the science if the effects don't fit your ideology - just call someone "a denier" . Yeah, sure. I'm quite tired of those who can't recognize how many tons of ore need to be extracted by diesel guzzling machinery, plus all the energy to process it into usable material, just to make an "eco-friendly" bicycle.

Ok, I'm done ranting... for now.

[eglideride]

Well, one of my brothers ordered a Tesla. He will take delivery in two weeks. The 'salesman' used the term "vegan leather" for the upholstery. We got a good laugh out of that. We decided it was some sort of "pleather". Genuine, imitation, plastic leather. You just cant make this shi% up. 

This isn't going away anytime soon, . 

[NVLeatherWorx]

56 minutes ago, eglideride said:

Well, one of my brothers ordered a Tesla. He will take delivery in two weeks. The 'salesman' used the term "vegan leather" for the upholstery. We got a good laugh out of that. We decided it was some sort of "pleather". Genuine, imitation, plastic leather. You just cant make this shi% up. 

This isn't going away anytime soon, . 

Funny you bring up Tesla and the upholstery idea.  The makers of ALL of the Tesla interiors is based right here in my hometown and I haven't seen a single piece of artificial "leather" in their building.  They use very real animal skins that have been tanned to create their leathers that are used for everything inside the Tesla vehicles.  So, if someone sold your Brother on "vegan" for the leather he is going to be pleasantly (maybe) surprised because it should be real leather.  The one thing that Tesla does not do is go cheap on anything that is associated with their vehicles and Mr. Musk has made it abundantly clear in his business plan and model that the Tesla vehicle line is a very high-end Luxury line intended to compete with the big Sports car brands of the World.  Hell, they don't even use fake wood, it is very real and very expensive.

But you are right on the fact that you just can't make this $hi! up.  It will however go away if we can all find a way to quit acknowledging the concept and just don't give it any "air time"; eventually when you stop talking about something it just starts to slowly fade away and "die" off into the Sunset (or was that "ride" off into the Sunset? Hell, it is all the same).

[Rhale]

Vegan leather?  What? VEGAN LEATHER? What an IDIOT!!

[DJole]

Vegan leather is leather made out of vegans....
Right? 

[alpha2]

I'm sorry. All I took away from this is that the OP is allegedly from Venezuela.  I refuse to believe that anyone in Venezuela is that caught up, to worry about such things. Eating, sure...shelter, obviously, toilet paper, of course. Heck, even 1.4 million % inflation. But vegan leather? I doubt it.

Jeff