Members DavidMillsSaddlery Posted April 7, 2019 Members Report Posted April 7, 2019 Spent the morning setting this up on my Union Lockstitch, and 5 minutes into using it it starts making this noise, and then quit spinning? Quote
Members DavidMillsSaddlery Posted April 7, 2019 Author Members Report Posted April 7, 2019 Just replaced the bushing things? Electrical stuff? And still no go? Quote
kgg Posted April 7, 2019 Report Posted April 7, 2019 Is this a new servo or a used one? Are you getting a funny / burned smell from the motor. If so, unplug it for safety and possible fire hazard reasons. If it is a new one, you should contact the seller. If it is a used one, you are probably going too have to replace it. kgg Quote Juki DNU - 1541S, Juki DU - 1181N, Singer 29K - 71(1949), Chinese Patcher (Tinkers Delight), Warlock TSC-441, Techsew 2750 Pro, Consew DCS-S4 Skiver
Members Matt S Posted April 7, 2019 Members Report Posted April 7, 2019 Hard to tell but is the spindle turning while the pulley remains stationary? If so it could have a few different causes. All the sewing motors I've worked on have a key which keeps the pulley and spindle locked together. First thing would be to check that's fully engaged into the keyway slot in the bore of the pulley. They key will either be a small square-section rod under an inch long or a semi-circular piece about 3/4" across. Quote
Members dikman Posted April 7, 2019 Members Report Posted April 7, 2019 Video was a bit short (in both length and detail) but at the end like Matt said it sounded like the motor was still spinning with no load. Quote Machines wot I have - Singer 51W59; Singer 331K4; Seiko STH-8BLD; Pfaff 335; CB4500. Chinese shoe patcher; Singer 201K (old hand crank)
Members DSloop Posted April 8, 2019 Members Report Posted April 8, 2019 First servo motor (500 watt) I bought lasted a month. It just would not run, have no idea what happened. The next one was a Consew 750 watt unit, it is bigger and has worked flawlessly. Quote
Members DavidMillsSaddlery Posted April 8, 2019 Author Members Report Posted April 8, 2019 (edited) Sorry for lack of details! This is a Family Brand... I believe it’s a 1/2 HP that I bought 5 or so years ago for a 31-15! It’s only got maybe two pair of chaps on it? Maybe an hour of sewing? The spindle and the shaft have both quit spinning, thenbthat noise was never there? This may be “self inflicted” as I tied the clutch activation arm all the way down, to keep the motor at a constant speed, and was hoping to use the clutch that’s built into the Union Lockstitch! Edited April 8, 2019 by turbotexas Quote
Members DavidMillsSaddlery Posted April 8, 2019 Author Members Report Posted April 8, 2019 31 minutes ago, DSloop said: First servo motor (500 watt) I bought lasted a month. It just would not run, have no idea what happened. The next one was a Consew 750 watt unit, it is bigger and has worked flawlessly. I ordered a Consew from Amazon! I think it’s the 3/4 HP 7500 one? It was supposed to arrive today, but I left for work at 4:00 and it still wasn’t there? Quote
Members dikman Posted April 8, 2019 Members Report Posted April 8, 2019 Got me curious. As servos don't have a clutch I assume you meant the actuating arm that goes to the foot pedal, the idea being that when you turned it on it just went to max speed (or whatever you set as max speed) straight away. If you take the belt off what happens to the motor? Does it run? Quote Machines wot I have - Singer 51W59; Singer 331K4; Seiko STH-8BLD; Pfaff 335; CB4500. Chinese shoe patcher; Singer 201K (old hand crank)
Members DavidMillsSaddlery Posted April 9, 2019 Author Members Report Posted April 9, 2019 20 hours ago, dikman said: Got me curious. As servos don't have a clutch I assume you meant the actuating arm that goes to the foot pedal, the idea being that when you turned it on it just went to max speed (or whatever you set as max speed) straight away. If you take the belt off what happens to the motor? Does it run? I’ll have to investigate this when I get home! I drive a truck for a living, and I had to leave town for a few days! Quote
Members dikman Posted April 9, 2019 Members Report Posted April 9, 2019 Work has a habit of getting in the way of the important things! Quote Machines wot I have - Singer 51W59; Singer 331K4; Seiko STH-8BLD; Pfaff 335; CB4500. Chinese shoe patcher; Singer 201K (old hand crank)
Members DavidMillsSaddlery Posted April 9, 2019 Author Members Report Posted April 9, 2019 Just now, dikman said: Work has a habit of getting in the way of the important things! Right!? Quote
Members Gregg From Keystone Sewing Posted April 10, 2019 Members Report Posted April 10, 2019 It sounds OK actually. Is the motor shaft spinning on the pulley? Quote Industrial sewing and cutting, parts sales and service, family owned since 1977, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania USA, 215/922.6900 info@keysew.com www.keysew.com
Members brmax Posted April 10, 2019 Members Report Posted April 10, 2019 You may have to make a longer video, especially showing your transmission to the machine head, that sounds interesting. I understand your idea of speed control, then using some existing pulley transmission system. Although some more views or photos of all this is really required. It can sure help me understand better, your reason the servo is not slow enough or the control is not, and requiring a constant other setting. As this control part is something many of us have had to address in several ways. Good day Floyd Quote
Members Rolandranch Posted April 10, 2019 Members Report Posted April 10, 2019 My servo motor went out a while back. Turned out the circuit board burned out, a common problem with servo motors. Replaced the board and running great. Quote
Members DavidMillsSaddlery Posted April 10, 2019 Author Members Report Posted April 10, 2019 10 hours ago, Gregg From Keystone Sewing said: It sounds OK actually. Is the motor shaft spinning on the pulley? Hi Greg, no the shaft itself is not spinning? 8 hours ago, brmax said: You may have to make a longer video, especially showing your transmission to the machine head, that sounds interesting. I understand your idea of speed control, then using some existing pulley transmission system. Although some more views or photos of all this is really required. It can sure help me understand better, your reason the servo is not slow enough or the control is not, and requiring a constant other setting. As this control part is something many of us have had to address in several ways. Good day Floyd Yes, I will spend more time with this, when I get back home... im out working for a spell! Quote
Members dikman Posted April 11, 2019 Members Report Posted April 11, 2019 Odd. It sounded like the motor was spinning in your vid. If that's the case then I'd say the electronics are shot? Quote Machines wot I have - Singer 51W59; Singer 331K4; Seiko STH-8BLD; Pfaff 335; CB4500. Chinese shoe patcher; Singer 201K (old hand crank)
Members DavidMillsSaddlery Posted April 13, 2019 Author Members Report Posted April 13, 2019 On 4/10/2019 at 9:48 PM, dikman said: Odd. It sounded like the motor was spinning in your vid. If that's the case then I'd say the electronics are shot? Yes, and when it was working, it never made that much noise! Quote
Members dikman Posted April 14, 2019 Members Report Posted April 14, 2019 I've been listening to it again (and again, and again....). It looks like a brush motor (I think I see one of the brush mounts in front?) so I wonder if the brush(es) are worn out or broken. It certainly sounds like something is spinning, though. Quite perplexing. Quote Machines wot I have - Singer 51W59; Singer 331K4; Seiko STH-8BLD; Pfaff 335; CB4500. Chinese shoe patcher; Singer 201K (old hand crank)
Members SARK9 Posted April 14, 2019 Members Report Posted April 14, 2019 The noises it makes suggest it IS spinning when you activate the pedal....if the shaft is not free-spinning inside the pulley (broken/missing key) or loose set screw/nut/other fastener, then its possible the output shaft itself could be broken at a point past the brushes. Stranger things have happened. 5 hours ago, dikman said: It looks like a brush motor (I think I see one of the brush mounts in front?) These old-school brush motors with a max-rpm limit dial have been used in some form on sewing machines since at least the 70's....one example is seen here on the old White model 970 from way back. -DC Quote Machines: Juki LU-563, Consew 206-RB5, Singer 20U33, Pfaff 481, Mitsubishi CU-865-22, Consew 29B, Rebadged Juki LU-562, Mitsubishi LS2-180, Seiko SK-6, Juki LG-158-1
Members DavidMillsSaddlery Posted April 14, 2019 Author Members Report Posted April 14, 2019 6 hours ago, dikman said: I've been listening to it again (and again, and again....). It looks like a brush motor (I think I see one of the brush mounts in front?) so I wonder if the brush(es) are worn out or broken. It certainly sounds like something is spinning, though. Quite perplexing. I replaced the brushes, to no avail! Just seemed quieter, but that could be because it had time to cool off? Quote
Members dikman Posted April 14, 2019 Members Report Posted April 14, 2019 What happens if you turn the shaft by hand? Quote Machines wot I have - Singer 51W59; Singer 331K4; Seiko STH-8BLD; Pfaff 335; CB4500. Chinese shoe patcher; Singer 201K (old hand crank)
Members DavidMillsSaddlery Posted April 15, 2019 Author Members Report Posted April 15, 2019 3 hours ago, dikman said: What happens if you turn the shaft by hand? I haven’t been home all week, and I may be another few weeks befor I can get back! I do heavy haul trucking, and I fell into some windmill work... Quote
Members dikman Posted April 15, 2019 Members Report Posted April 15, 2019 Guess we'll have to wait for the next installment. Quote Machines wot I have - Singer 51W59; Singer 331K4; Seiko STH-8BLD; Pfaff 335; CB4500. Chinese shoe patcher; Singer 201K (old hand crank)
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