Is Facebook now Vegan????

[Smartee]

I haven't read everything here but wanted to interject that it's not just the leather community.  As a horse and other animal person - it is happening to all of the animal sites, farming sites, etc.  One must be very particular as to wording on FB anymore.  I feed my dogs raw and our buying group has even seen issues.  I'm sorry - my dogs weren't born to be vegan nor was my cat or myself!

[kgg]

5 hours ago, Smartee said:

I feed my dogs raw

Good for you Smartee we have been doing Raw for the last 30 years with our dogs. When my wife and I got our first pure bred we followed our vets recommendation as far as food went, spared no expense he had to have the best the vet could supply and ignored what our parents / grandparents had done. We lived in a place that kibble didn't appear on the scene until the 1970's. What a mistake for the dog and I swear I put that vets kid through college. Finally with the dog at deaths door we said enough is enough and went back to the old ways of feeding. Have never looked back since. How do people think we fed our dogs before kibble?

kgg

[Halitech]

What really gets to me is how crackbook can be so hypocritical. Okay, you don't want animal pelts/skins sold to prevent the poachers from being able to sell there but they are completely fine with hosting cock fighting (209k results) and dog fighting (2.3M results). Now hard to say what percentage is pro/against dog fighting, google doesn't say but the cock fighting, are 95% for and have lots of graphic photos to look at. Maybe we need to direct PETA to go after the dog and cock fighting groups. Would still like to give most of them a tap between the eyes with a 2x4.

And as has been pointed out, in the majority of cases, we are using the hides after the animals were killed for food. Of course there are probably some, like snake skins, that are killed simply for their skins because the meat has no value or use. And most leather will decompose within 50-75 years compared to centuries for the pleather that they would rather we use.

[Handstitched]

G'Day, this thread certainly has turned into a hot topic.  

@Big Sioux Saddlery God bless you, I love my bacon & eggs too    You're right.   I  just don't like the hypocrisy  of these so called ' vegan activists' that we have here in Oz  . They say they'e trying to 'save the animals', but what they don't realise is that they break every bio security rule in the book when  trespassing farms etc.  potentially putting the very animals they're trying to save,  at risk. 

HS

 

[robs456]

3 hours ago, Handstitched said:

 potentially putting the very animals they're trying to save,  at risk. 

Haha, reminds me of one of my favorite stories ever. A Swedish militant animal rights group once raided a mink farm somewhere in Sweden and released around 100 minks. Because it's wrong to kill etc etc.
Well, most died within a couple of days as they could not get food or knew how to live in the woods...

....ummm wait it's terrible, shouldn't laugh.....but WTH...

[Tugadude]

21 hours ago, robs456 said:

At least only humans have to die for oil...and dinosaurs...

Just another myth foisted upon an unsuspecting crowd...

 

https://www.thoughtco.com/oil-comes-from-dinosaurs-fact-or-fiction-3980636

[robs456]

10 minutes ago, Tugadude said:

Just another myth foisted upon an unsuspecting crowd...

 

https://www.thoughtco.com/oil-comes-from-dinosaurs-fact-or-fiction-3980636

Going OT, but of course! The way I've always figured it is that we drill kilometers down for oil but find fossils basically just laying around in the deserts. They can't really be related...

But like you say, the myth is popular and the crowd knows little.

[Tugadude]

3 minutes ago, robs456 said:

Going OT, but of course! The way I've always figured it is that we drill kilometers down for oil but find fossils basically just laying around in the deserts. They can't really be related...

But like you say, the myth is popular and the crowd knows little.

yep!

[robs456]

Going on topic again.
I was in a store that sold belts that were clearly plastic and with a quality not warranting the hefty price tag.
When I cautiously offered a steady supply of high quality leather belts I got the reply that all their products are vegan.
"Mine too!" I replied, "with the exception for the odd fly or worm I guess, but those are most certainly accidental only!"
The lady went blank and whimpered a "No...."

 

Edited May 7, 2019 by robs456

[mikesc]

Dinosaurs and oil are from different periods in time..Hence they are not at the same positions in the strata..There is also erosion , and geological upheavals to be taken into account, most oilfields drill were drilled less than a kilometre down..
Edited to add ..apparently the average is now a little less than 2km down..But the different geological time periods and strata is the reason that they are not at the same levels as dinosaurs still holds..Some areas that nowadays have no, or very little oil, once had huge amounts, relatively near the surface, even by today's standards of "oil fields", but it was not geologically trapped..Complex subject..
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geologic_column

Back to the original one re "leather goods bad"..
Natalie Portman advertises at the moment for Chanel..( she is "their girl" this year, and was last year ) who make luxury goods including Leather sacs and bags, and watch straps..they even have a perfume called "cuir" ( leather ) ..
https://www.chanel.com/us/fashion/small-leather-goods/c/1x1x2/

Also a very extensive line of vintage leather wear including coats and jackets..

Hypocritical much eh ?..

The lady looks great, but is definitely either "hard of thinking", or doesn't really care as much as she would have some believe, as long as the check from Chanel clears..

Edited May 7, 2019 by mikesc