Is Facebook now Vegan????

[Tugadude]

On 5/5/2019 at 6:47 PM, noobleather said:

The future worries me, the internet has gotten better and worse since it first started.

What's happens when Google goes to war with Facebook?

 

If you want to lose your faith in humanity, just read comments below an article, social media post or youtube video.  Personally, I have little faith in humanity and lots of faith in God.

[mikesc]

If you want to lose your faith in humanity, just read comments below an article, social media post or youtube video. Personally, I have little faith in humanity and lots of faith in God.

The only hope for humanity, is to forget "god(s)" and "faith(s)" and go with logic , reasoning , and science..

Edited May 8, 2019 by mikesc

[Tugadude]

Don't need to derail the thread so I'll simply say we'll have to agree to disagree on that one.

[Constabulary]

1 hour ago, mikesc said:

and go with logic , reasoning , and science..

And firepower... and German beer....    and Italian pasta... and Singer sewing machines 

Edited May 8, 2019 by Constabulary

[RockyAussie]

10 hours ago, Tugadude said:

If you want to lose your faith in humanity, just read comments below an article, social media post or youtube video.  Personally, I have little faith in humanity and lots of faith in God.

That is a good point. Where there is an opening to express opposing ideas it all to often exposes the worst extremes of humanity.

In my search trying to see any answers from a vegans perspective I did find it interesting that a lot of the comments below this post from Ethical Vegan confirmed a lot of my thinking on the matter. I must add that at least they have been ethical enough to allow the comments to be seen and for that at least they should be commended. http://ethicalvegan.net/read/will-animals-go-extinct-if-the-world-becomes-vegan

[mikesc]

Unfortunately their comments system is powered by disqus, and to even get to to the point where you can allow the disqus scripts to work ( and for disqus to track you all over the internet ) and to be able to read the comments at all .. you have to have already allowed a whole pile of other scripts, ( 10 in the first stage, none of which are owned by that site, no idea how many in later stages ) , from other tracking companies to be loaded , and to track you all over the web, drop cookies ( some of which are "ever cookies" which do not get destroyed without a lot of work* to stop them re-spawning ) ..so..I'll take your word for it..

Lazy webmasters ( like 99.9999% of webmasters ) using script systems, analytic systems, and comments systems from companies who track you..illegally ..GDPR applies to those sites the moment an EU visitor hits them..instead of using comments systems that don't do any of that ..or "opt you in" or do not allow "disagree"..but only propose "learn more" or I agree", or "by using this site you agree"..all of which are illegal..and make them liable to huge fines and penalties..

btw..Chanel did their first "show" in Paris this week since Karl died..many leather items in the new collection, bags, sacs, jackets ,trousers, and even ( combinations ) jumpsuits..and some leather gourds and other leather accessories.

One of the Chanel perfume ads ran on TV earlier here this evening, the one in which Ms Portman wears a Chanel leather jacket whilst advertising their Chanel n°5 perfume.

*I could go through and clear the stuff out afterwards..but I've better things to do with the 10 minutes or so it would take of my time..and would have to relaunch this browser..or use another browser on another machine and then clean it..all because of lazy, immoral, or incompetent webmasters.

That is a good point. Where there is an opening to express opposing ideas it all to often exposes the worst extremes of humanity.

Most if not all of those kinds of "comments" on so called "social media" such as facebook , twitter, and to a huge extent Youtube, are not "opposing" anything, they are just the illiterati typing ( with horrific grammatical or spelling errors all through each phrase and sometimes each word ) their jealousy, hatred and bile , because they can, because they are anonymous, and they know that ( except in very very rare cases ) there will be no consequences to them ..The internet gave the worst parts of humanity a voice, they shout in everyone's faces now all over it..it is like the graffiti that you see which has nothing artistic about, only a bad attempt at a logo for their ego..shouting their name in paint, or commenting by saying something vile, to give them a sense of existing.

Hah..my "speelchucker" "flags" ( red underlines ) "illiterati" and "Chanel" as "incorrect"..

Edited May 8, 2019 by mikesc
Fighting my "speelchucker".. and typos

[Matt S]

This isn't just a Facebook thing. Look at the ongoing Youtube monetisation/content debacle, the looming UK national porn filter, and the EU's Article 13. Blunt rules, crudely forged by ignoramuses that are applied inconsistently by uncaring bots and third-world clickfarms. These are killing or will kill the internet. Rules intended to do good (improve ad revenue, avoid tabloid headlines, protect copyright trolls holders or children from shock horror seeing naked people "accidentally").

In the OP's case I suspect that Facebook doesn't/didn't intend to ban leather -- it's just a poorly worded rule that picked up on your use of croc. Human review was probably done by some underpaid worker in a third world cubicle farm where the personal consequences of an over-harsh decision are zero and the consequences of an overly generous decision are severe.

[mikesc]

In the OP's case I suspect that Facebook doesn't/didn't intend to ban leather -- it's just a poorly worded rule that picked up on your use of croc. Human review was probably done by some underpaid worker in a third world cubicle farm where the personal consequences of an over-harsh decision are zero and the consequences of an overly generous decision are severe.

The refusal would probably stand if "drop bears" was substituted for "croc"..

However, if that "substitution" was made, any subsequent public challenge (such as contacting the press or TV , or other media ) to such a refusal to " prohibited content" would make facebook look very very foolish. :)

"Won't someone think of the drop bears"

Being held to public ridicule often has more effect on "the powerful" , than other avenues.

Edited May 9, 2019 by mikesc

[dikman]

I like that. Drop bear leather. There could be a marketing opportunity there, Brian.

Along those lines the NSW government and police recently created legislation that banned "Zombie knives"! I kid you not, it is written that it is illegal to own knives that are advertised as being intended to kill zombies.

Stupidity knows no bounds......

Edited May 9, 2019 by dikman

[RockyAussie]

1 minute ago, dikman said:

I like that. Drop bear leather. There could be a marketing opportunity there, Brian.

Along those lines the NSW government and police recently created legislation that banned "Zombie knives"! I kid you not, it is written that it is illegal to own knives that are advertised as being intended to kill zombies.

Does that specifically include pollies??? Eggs seem to be coming under the firing line.