What's up with this thread I was given?

[nylonRigging]

excuse me for my misuse of the the word 'manufacture' , inplace of word importer . Also pardon me, I have nothing to bitch about sewing with different Threads bought from different vendors because I should have ordered Thread direct from Serafil or Amann in the first place .
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[chrisash]

Made in the USA, France, England, China or any other country is not a sign of quality, manufacturers in all countries make their products for there market be it low, medium or high cost. You cannot quantify quality with a generalization of the country it was made in

 

[Constabulary]

But you can buy thread from well known manufacturers - it may cost more but you for sure have less issues. It´s a good advice when you buy thread of a manufacturer who has a proper website and give you detailed technical information about their thread(s). Of course every dealer claims their thread is top quality but the key is that you know the "real" manufacturer - not the dealer or importer who probably but their own brand sticker on the thread cones.

Just my 2 cents

[DonInReno]

I’d say chances are high that there are grooves worn in the thread path essentially the size of the thinner of the two threads and the second thread may be stiffer but it sounds more like it’s thicker and dragging in the grooves.

While it might seem like the series of holes is there to “remove memory” from the thread, that’s not the purpose of the holes and commercial thread doesn’t need to be straightened.  There are multiple holes to allow tension to be increased or decreased depending on how many holes are used.

Commercial machines require tension adjustments anytime something changes - it’s an essential operator skill and should be embraced as much as much as any other basic sewing operation.  

[kgg]

On 5/22/2019 at 7:41 PM, Matt S said:

138/TKT20 thread is about £10 per big spool.

What thread are you using for £10 for 1lb (500g) spool which should have 3000 yds on the spool. I spoke to American & Efird last week and a 1lb (500g) spool, which should have 4200 yds on the spool, of Anefil Bonded Polyester or Nylon in V92 (T90,Tkt30) is going to cost $42 CA ($31.25 US / £24.56). They also said they are not supplying 8 oz(250g) thread anymore for general information.

On 5/23/2019 at 9:45 AM, Constabulary said:

But you can buy thread from well known manufacturers - it may cost more but you for sure have less issues. It´s a good advice when you buy thread of a manufacturer who has a proper website and give you detailed technical information about their thread(s).

Totally agree as I do like to know what I am buying rather then I will take some thread in colour AA in spool size XX and thread size YY.

On 5/23/2019 at 9:45 AM, Constabulary said:

Of course every dealer claims their thread is top quality but the key is that you know the "real" manufacturer - not the dealer or importer who probably but their own brand sticker on the thread cones. 

Some retailers / importers don't even bother to add their own label, the spool just has whatever the "real" manufacturer has labelled it as.

6 hours ago, DonInReno said:

While it might seem like the series of holes is there to “remove memory” from the thread, that’s not the purpose of the holes

Totally agree.

6 hours ago, DonInReno said:

and commercial thread doesn’t need to be straightened.

I agree when on 1 lb spools but the smaller 8 oz spools other things can and does happen particularly with "less then" quality (probably cheap Chinese) thread.

kgg

[Matt S]

12 hours ago, kgg said:

What thread are you using for £10 for 1lb (500g) spool which should have 3000 yds on the spool. I spoke to American & Efird last week and a 1lb (500g) spool, which should have 4200 yds on the spool, of Anefil Bonded Polyester or Nylon in V92 (T90,Tkt30) is going to cost $42 CA ($31.25 US / £24.56). They also said they are not supplying 8 oz(250g) thread anymore for general information.

Coats Nylbond. TKT20 1500M, TKT40 3000m. Both around £10/cone (+VAT) in small quantities.

[kgg]

4 hours ago, Matt S said:

Coats Nylbond. TKT20 1500M, TKT40 3000m. Both around £10/cone (+VAT) in small quantities.

Hi Matt Coats is a damn good thread I use mostly Coats Dabond Bonded Polyester myself. The V138 (Tkt 20) and the V69 (Tkt 40) are both 8 oz (250g) spools are I think considered a small spool on this side of the pond even though I have seen 4 oz spools. So the price is fairly comparable.  

kgg