Please give your opinion on my sewing machine purchase

[Wizcrafts]

I also cannot imagine sewing tarps on a cylinder arm machine. I use a long body walking foot machine for that.

I own a CB4500, which is a 441 clone. It is too slow for tarps and awnings and very inconvienient for flat work. It also needs to be dumbed down to sue sew thin thread and needles and harness feet aren't ideal for canvas.

[cdthayer]

2 hours ago, Wizcrafts said:

needs to be dumbed down to sue thin thread

Now what in the world made you spell sew like that?

(I ask myself that every once in a while with some of the words that I use.)

CD in Oklahoma

[cdthayer]

I use a 1944 Singer 111W153 for tarp, awning, pool cover work.  (I nicknamed it “Ol Dirty” because the tarps that I work on (repairs) are always dirty.)  It’s a compound-feed machine without reverse.  I run Tex90 thread top and bottom, and the power stand that it runs in has a 3470 rpm clutch motor without speed reducer.  I seldom run it wide-open (the max speed of the 111W153 is 2900 rpm), but I can run some thread through it quick before I have to stop and reposition the work.

I had to resew three stitch lines on every piece of webbing reinforcement on a 30x60 used mesh pool cover once.  I blew the sand out of the hook area with my air compressor several times, and like to drown it in Lily White Sewing Machine Oil.  It’s amazing how much sand a mesh pool cover can have in it.

The sewing went fast, but the unfolding, repositioning, and refolding like to wore me out.

CD in Oklahoma

 

[Wizcrafts]

4 hours ago, cdthayer said:

Now what in the world made you spell sew like that?

I was trying to answer the topic with only a few minutes left before I had to leave for work.

4 hours ago, cdthayer said:

I use a 1944 Singer 111W153 for tarp, awning, pool cover work.  (I nicknamed it “Ol Dirty” because the tarps that I work on (repairs) are always dirty.)  It’s a compound-feed machine without reverse.  I run Tex90 thread top and bottom, and the power stand that it runs in has a 3470 rpm clutch motor without speed reducer.  I seldom run it wide-open (the max speed of the 111W153 is 2900 rpm), but I can run some thread through it quick before I have to stop and reposition the work.

I had to resew three stitch lines on every piece of webbing reinforcement on a 30x60 used mesh pool cover once.  I blew the sand out of the hook area with my air compressor several times, and like to drown it in Lily White Sewing Machine Oil.  It’s amazing how much sand a mesh pool cover can have in it.

The sewing went fast, but the unfolding, repositioning, and refolding like to wore me out.

CD in Oklahoma

 

Now, that is SEWING! Kudos!

[mikesc]

Juki.

[nylonRigging]

4 hours ago, cdthayer said:

I use a 1944 Singer 111W153 for tarp, awning, pool cover work.  (I nicknamed it “Ol Dirty” because the tarps that I work on (repairs) are always dirty.)  It’s a compound-feed machine without reverse.  I run Tex90 thread top and bottom, and the power stand that it runs in has a 3470 rpm clutch motor without speed reducer.  I seldom run it wide-open (the max speed of the 111W153 is 2900 rpm), but I can run some thread through it quick before I have to stop and reposition the work.

I had to resew three stitch lines on every piece of webbing reinforcement on a 30x60 used mesh pool cover once.  I blew the sand out of the hook area with my air compressor several times, and like to drown it in Lily White Sewing Machine Oil.  It’s amazing how much sand a mesh pool cover can have in it.

The sewing went fast, but the unfolding, repositioning, and refolding like to wore me out.

CD in Oklahoma

 

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You can't see me, ...but I am on the floor in the living room in-front of my PC. . ' Bowing Down ' , to you sir ..

A full size Pool Tarp on a 111 ... you are the man. .....LOL

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[ljk]

I would consider the Singer 144w.  They were available in short and long arm version 20" and 30".  They have big bobbins,. high lift (1") and long

stitches.  I used a 12" version for years in my leather shop when my 206's reached capacity, we called it T-rex.  Most long arm

versions where used in factory settings thus heavy wear. Price for those run around $1500 with reverse about $2000.  I have

a source for a 144w305 a non factory machine in Colo.  The Consew 206 was available in 20" arm I consider it equal to any

euro machine especially the Seiko made versions.

[cdthayer]

12 hours ago, Wizcrafts said:

Now, that is SEWING! Kudos!

 

11 hours ago, nylonRigging said:

A full size Pool Tarp on a 111 ... you are the man. .....LOL

Thank you.  Resewing that pool cover was an interesting project.  The webbing was still good, and the mesh was still good, but all of the thread that stitched them together had failed or was failing.

My hard work only lasted a couple of years, we found out.  They told us that a whitetail doe deer decided to run across it one night, and before they finally got her out of the pool, she had torn it up beyond repair and they bought a new one.

CD in Oklahoma

 

[Louiesdad]

Someone suggested I also consider the new model hitech 205-370-40

 

Anyone use the cowboy 205 370 40?

[Cumberland Highpower]

CDTHAYER, The 205s did come in 2 different throat depths.  The earlier version was painted with grey hammer paint and the later deeper throat was painted white.  Vernon Weaver claimed that Weaver Leather pressured Adler to revise the 205 to make it deeper.  (Well who's to say if they did or didnt).   They sold them for a couple years until they were discontinued.   If you want a deep one I believe they were all made in the Czech Republic (White paint).   Probably changed castings when they moved production.

If you do allot of tarp work specifically you should look for a used pfaff or juki.  I've seen pfaff 145's quite cheap.  $200-400.  1245s seem to go around 500++Craigslist generally has a few.  Check auctions too.  www.auctionzip.com

 

Edited July 21, 2019 by Cumberland Highpower