Members Constabulary Posted August 2, 2019 Members Report Posted August 2, 2019 (edited) This is not my idea - the pictures come from German sewing machine forum (I have permission to post them here). For sure it depends on the servo motor it self but it this is a rather smart idea I think wen you have (space) issues mounting the speed reducer under the table. What do you guys think of this solution? Edited August 2, 2019 by Constabulary Quote ~ Keep "OLD CAST IRON" alive - it´s worth it ~ Machines in use: - Singer 111G156 - Singer 307G2 - Singer 29K71 - Singer 212G141 - Singer 45D91 - Singer 132K6 - Singer 108W20 - Singer 51WSV2 - Singer 143W2
Hockeymender Posted August 2, 2019 Report Posted August 2, 2019 That looks like a great concept. Would like to be able to set mine up like that. Quote Regards, Joe Esposito www.hockeymenders.com instragram: @hockeymenders.com
Members brmax Posted August 2, 2019 Members Report Posted August 2, 2019 Thats a very nice setup. It’s also interesting how these changes are taking place, especially toward the weight of materials used or not necessarily! Being a requirement to use, compared to the past. Where some motors we have like the venerable clutch type and such were dependent in their own strength to carry itself. Thanks for posting Floyd Quote
Members koreric75 Posted August 2, 2019 Members Report Posted August 2, 2019 On 8/2/2019 at 12:17 PM, Constabulary said: This is not my idea - the pictures come from German sewing machine forum (I have permission to post them here). For sure it depends on the servo motor it self but it this is a rather smart idea I think wen you have (space) issues mounting the speed reducer under the table. What do you guys think of this solution? Expand I like it, i prefer this one tho that mounts in the same holes as the servo and the servo mounts to the bottom of it...I just installed this on my adler 67-372 and it made a world of difference, i can actually turn a corner and go slow enough while still punching through heavier leather. Quote Machines currently in use: Cowboy 3200, Adler 67-372, Singer 66, Singer 15-91
mikesc Posted August 2, 2019 Report Posted August 2, 2019 (edited) Re the pics posted by Constabulary from the German forum.. Looks to be a way to save space, and allow possibly easier access for changing of belts..but.I don't understand the point of using round cross section belts ( which look to be leather ? like on old pedal powered machines ) in pulleys designed to run trapezoidal section rubber / fibre composite ones with teeth..Lot of power is being lost there due to the very small area of contact on the pulley surfaces by a round belt instead of ones that fit the pulley slot profile. Edited August 2, 2019 by mikesc Quote "Don't you know that women are the only works of Art" .. ( Don Henley and "some French painter in a field" )
Members Constabulary Posted August 2, 2019 Author Members Report Posted August 2, 2019 the belts are not the point - that is just temporarily Quote ~ Keep "OLD CAST IRON" alive - it´s worth it ~ Machines in use: - Singer 111G156 - Singer 307G2 - Singer 29K71 - Singer 212G141 - Singer 45D91 - Singer 132K6 - Singer 108W20 - Singer 51WSV2 - Singer 143W2
mikesc Posted August 2, 2019 Report Posted August 2, 2019 Ah.. that is OK then.. ;) I have to confess I had a "temporary belt" ( bungee cord ) on one machine for 6 months! ;) Quote "Don't you know that women are the only works of Art" .. ( Don Henley and "some French painter in a field" )
Members dikman Posted August 2, 2019 Members Report Posted August 2, 2019 I like it! It can only work with that particular style of reducer, of course, but it's a very neat solution to mounting it. Quote Machines wot I have - Singer 51W59; Singer 331K4; Seiko STH-8BLD; Pfaff 335; CB4500. Chinese shoe patcher; Singer 201K (old hand crank)
Members Bert51 Posted August 3, 2019 Members Report Posted August 3, 2019 I still run leather belts on several of my machine and have no problems with them. I am unable to buy "M" V belts locally and I can make them in minutes if I make any changes to my set up, like change heads on one of my tables. Bert. Quote
kgg Posted August 3, 2019 Report Posted August 3, 2019 Nice and compact. Do you know what the reduction is? kgg Quote Juki DNU - 1541S, Juki DU - 1181N, Singer 29K - 71(1949), Chinese Patcher (Tinkers Delight), Warlock TSC-441, Techsew 2750 Pro, Consew DCS-S4 Skiver
bikermutt07 Posted August 3, 2019 Report Posted August 3, 2019 On 8/2/2019 at 1:43 PM, mikesc said: Ah.. that is OK then.. I have to confess I had a "temporary belt" ( bungee cord ) on one machine for 6 months! Expand Red Green says, "remember folks, this is only temporary...........unless it works". Quote I'm not paying 80 bucks for a belt!!! It's a strip of leather. How hard could it be? 4 years and 3 grand later.... I have a belt I can finally live with. Stitching is like gravy, it's only great if you make it every day. From Texas but in Bossier City, Louisiana.
Members Pterytus Posted August 4, 2019 Members Report Posted August 4, 2019 Hey guys, (Ok, I confess: It was me ;-) It's a Ø4cm/Ø13cm part ordered from Sieck here in Gemany http://www.sieck.de/maschinen/naehmaschinen/schuh-schaft-herstellung/diverse-naehmaschinen/?produkt=9237 But you can get the same device at http://www.cowboysew.com/product911.htm or https://www.allbrands.com/products/39722-techsew-sr-speed-reducer-slows-down-handwheel-rpm (prices DO vary...) I used the leather belts just because they were easy to make at that moment and I could tweak the length so I would know which exact length of V-belts to order. In the pictures you can see the parts I used and the installed carrier without the speedreducer mounted. The star shaped head screw and modified hex nut are optional, a standard bolt and nut do the job, you then just need tools to tighten. Cheers, Pete... Quote
Uwe Posted August 4, 2019 Report Posted August 4, 2019 On 8/4/2019 at 8:37 AM, Pterytus said: Hey guys, (Ok, I confess: It was me ;-) Expand Thank you for inventing this elegant and simple mounting solution and sharing the details with us. Thanks also for the sourcing links - interesting that the identical part is available in Germany for a mere third of what vendors here in North America charge. Quote Uwe (pronounced "OOH-vuh" ) Links: Videos
Members Pintodeluxe Posted August 4, 2019 Members Report Posted August 4, 2019 This looks like a great idea. I had that style of speed reducer mounted to the table, but I didn't like it because I couldn't tip the machine head back. This should solve that issue. I went with a box type speed reducer, which works great too. This is a very clever idea you came up with. Nice work. Quote
Members Pterytus Posted August 4, 2019 Members Report Posted August 4, 2019 Dang! Should've patented it first, then... ;-D No, really: Thank you guys for your kind words and I'm glad if you like and/or use it for your own setup (As in: Why is there so little space under such a big table?). Cheers, Pete... Quote
RockyAussie Posted August 5, 2019 Report Posted August 5, 2019 On 8/4/2019 at 8:49 PM, Pterytus said: Dang! Should've patented it first, then... ;-D No, really: Thank you guys for your kind words and I'm glad if you like and/or use it for your own setup (As in: Why is there so little space under such a big table?). Cheers, Pete... Expand Great thinking....Hang around some @Pterytus I love to see more of this type of thinking. Quote Wild Harry - Australian made leather goodsYouTube Channel Instagram
Members Constabulary Posted August 5, 2019 Author Members Report Posted August 5, 2019 On 8/4/2019 at 8:37 AM, Pterytus said: Hey guys, (Ok, I confess: It was me ;-) Expand There he is - the inventor Thanks for jumping in here and sharing more details. Quote ~ Keep "OLD CAST IRON" alive - it´s worth it ~ Machines in use: - Singer 111G156 - Singer 307G2 - Singer 29K71 - Singer 212G141 - Singer 45D91 - Singer 132K6 - Singer 108W20 - Singer 51WSV2 - Singer 143W2
Members Pterytus Posted August 5, 2019 Members Report Posted August 5, 2019 Yeah, I think I'm going to make it a Habit: Decent idea - once a decade - sounds like a plan! ;-) Cheers, Pete... Quote
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