Really confused about glue

[zuludog]

I use Evostik Impact , multi-purpose instant contact adhesive. It's available in small tubes or larger cans

[ThoughtFission]

9 hours ago, $$hobby said:

welcome,

I noticed you are outside of the USA, so any leather craft place maybe hard to find.

but if you have any leather craft places where you live i would check there first.  Some may have some bonded leather samples just like they would with leather dyes.  

for what its worth, i prefer Barge Cement.  its is a contact cement.  If you have not worked with a contact cement,  you more or less apply a thin coat to both sides and let dry/get tacky and put the glued faces together.   Its more or less a 1 time shot.  So no do-overs.  If you do end up using it, i would have some practice pieces and see what you think.

I know you can buy a toothpaste size tube if you dont want to invest in a can if you are not sure.  But not sure if you can find it outside of the USA.  You can try Amazon.EU?

Barge is also smelly, so if you decide to  use it, i would use it in a well vented room or outside.

also for what its worth, for a wallet, i would be picky on whats used.  I had used some glue on a wallet and after a time, the glue failed but ended up gooey and if you can imagine it not staying put but creeping to where the notes were kept.  

Yes, a Canadian living in the south of France Based on the feedback, there seem to be two strong contenders here as well as from recognized youtubers; Renia Colle de Cologne  and Evostik. RCC is much less expensive here in France. Evostik seems hard to find and if ordered from the UK, it's very expensive. So I think I'll go with RCC for now.

Edited July 16, 2020 by ThoughtFission

[ThoughtFission]

Just wanted to say thanks to everyone for their replies! I'm new to leatherworker.net but I am already blown away by how friendly and helpful everyone here is. It really is great to be part of such an inclusive, supportive community.

[paloma]

i also live in south of france,

but,it's not the reason i used,some times neoprene glue,or wood glue ( Titebond original wood glue or sader bois ) depending the work. If i m sure of me i used neopren ( contact glue) if i need some time to adjust my work i used wood glue,and i prefer Titbond because it's stay hard  when dry it's more easy to sand.I used sader-patex wood glue white when i have very small thing to adjust before stitching.

one tip, for neopren ( contact glue ) i love Limpiprene it's a glue used by plumbers it's clear once dry.

And i also use fish glue,or skin rabit glue,or bone glue for very other special works,but it's not the matter of this post not what this thread is about.

Edited July 16, 2020 by paloma

[$$hobby]

for what its worth there are glues out there that can be temperature sensitive.

when i worked at my cousins store they sold a crap load of "tug o war" glue.  It was a like a milky latex base? and customers used it to patch up their worn carharts.   But one order was received when it froze either on our end or the shippers end.  we didnt know until some customer came in with the bottle they purchased and it came out clumpy or like runny cottage cheese.  

My cousin checked the mfg if there was any freezing issues and there was so it was ordered before our winters and hopefully enough to cover until our spring.  

@op,

if it was me, i would just get what you can get locally and do some testing on some leather.  There were some suggestions from the UK/Sweden and depending on where you live in France, it could be a Eurostar train ride away or maybe a ferry ride.  to me it would be good reason to get out of dodge and maybe do some shopping.

Also, i think when i was in Amsterdam one time there was something like a leather trade show going on.  I didnt realize leatherwork was big enough to have a show in Europe, but i guess if you have a handfull of people from several countries in Europe, it could be a big and nice show.

have fun with the glue...

 

 

 

Edited July 16, 2020 by $$hobby

[ThoughtFission]

On 7/17/2020 at 1:38 AM, $$hobby said:

for what its worth there are glues out there that can be temperature sensitive.

when i worked at my cousins store they sold a crap load of "tug o war" glue.  It was a like a milky latex base? and customers used it to patch up their worn carharts.   But one order was received when it froze either on our end or the shippers end.  we didnt know until some customer came in with the bottle they purchased and it came out clumpy or like runny cottage cheese.  

My cousin checked the mfg if there was any freezing issues and there was so it was ordered before our winters and hopefully enough to cover until our spring.  

@op,

if it was me, i would just get what you can get locally and do some testing on some leather.  There were some suggestions from the UK/Sweden and depending on where you live in France, it could be a Eurostar train ride away or maybe a ferry ride.  to me it would be good reason to get out of dodge and maybe do some shopping.

Also, i think when i was in Amsterdam one time there was something like a leather trade show going on.  I didnt realize leatherwork was big enough to have a show in Europe, but i guess if you have a handfull of people from several countries in Europe, it could be a big and nice show.

have fun with the glue...

 

 

 

Lol, you've obviously never paid for a train ticket in France! Would make the cost of the glue rather expensive. But I get your point. I think, given the pandemic and all, I'll stay local. Renia Colle de Cologne  seems to be the best choice that is accessible, affordable and like by many.

On 7/16/2020 at 11:33 AM, paloma said:

i also live in south of france,

but,it's not the reason i used,some times neoprene glue,or wood glue ( Titebond original wood glue or sader bois ) depending the work. If i m sure of me i used neopren ( contact glue) if i need some time to adjust my work i used wood glue,and i prefer Titbond because it's stay hard  when dry it's more easy to sand.I used sader-patex wood glue white when i have very small thing to adjust before stitching.

one tip, for neopren ( contact glue ) i love Limpiprene it's a glue used by plumbers it's clear once dry.

And i also use fish glue,or skin rabit glue,or bone glue for very other special works,but it's not the matter of this post not what this thread is about.

Thanks :) I have not heard of some of these. I'm in the Charente, where are you?

[toxo]

I'm always surprised on these glue threads that no one mentions Gorilla glue. It's not like other glues. You have to dampen the leather and it foams and expands and you have to hold it in place whilst it cures - moveable for ten mins, sets in about an hour and fully cured after 24hrs. I've only used it for small applications but by Christ it holds. Made a mistake and inadvertantly moved a piece when putting books on it. next day I had to rip the leather glue was going nowhere. I've often thought it might be the answer for those oily leathers the other stuff won't do.

For most of my glueing I use a cheap solvent based contact adhesive that frustrated me because it dried out too quickly in the tin but I'm happy now since I bought a bottle of toluene and now I can have it as runny as I like every time.

[AzShooter]

I tried Renie but the glue was too thick to work with.  I guess they sent me an old bottle.  I had to add water to get it to be usable, after that it works o.k.

I use Barge.  Been using it for a long time.  I don't mind the smell, I glue in the garage with a fan on so that the smell doesn't get into the house.

Gorilla glue...great glue for many purposes but dries very hard 

[jcuk]

I use this does smell a bit just leave my workshop door open works well.

https://www.abbeyengland.com/441-contact-adhesive-490.html

Hope this helps

JCUK

 

[$$hobby]

On 7/19/2020 at 1:32 AM, ThoughtFission said:

Lol, you've obviously never paid for a train ticket in France! Would make the cost of the glue rather expensive. But I get your point. I think, given the pandemic and all, I'll stay local. Renia Colle de Cologne  seems to be the best choice that is accessible, affordable and like by many.

used the Eurostar several times but always bought 6 months out.

Only internal French trips was Paris <> Bayeux and Bayeux <> Caen.  Not a big deal $$ wise.  Did some other CROSSborder trains, but again, i buy sooner than later.  

But what i found out via Seat61 is that for INTRAcountry trains price can be expensive such as in the UK depending on where/when.  But if you buy tickets sooner than later you can usually get some good deals.  

Yes, they maybe expensive and to me its relative.  But considering that i hate driving and the trains over-there work for me.  Even if it cost a bit more, id rather take a train anytime and any day than to drive.

but for me, i would use it as an "excuse" to get out of dodge and to be in some other country for a while.