Leather20 Report post Posted August 30, 2020 (edited) This is my first commissioned leather project! It took me 12 hours (not counting drying time). I created the pattern myself, designed spcificlly for an iPhone 11 with an Otter Box Defender Screenless phone case. Anyone have any tips for me to consider in the future? Edited August 30, 2020 by Leather20 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Leather20 Report post Posted August 30, 2020 I don't know why my pics aren't showing up! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tsunkasapa Report post Posted August 30, 2020 Nice work. Two things I would suggest. I would use one bigger belt loop on the back. And confine the stitches to JUST the belt loop. Do not start the stitching in the "base" of the project, but rather start 1/2 stitch length from the edge of the loop. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alaisiagae Report post Posted August 30, 2020 (edited) It looks pretty good, and I like the basketweaving! I noticed your veining on the scroll stems looks a little odd to me, have you watched this video? It has some nice tips for angling the tool, see at time 7:04. Edited August 30, 2020 by Alaisiagae Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Leather20 Report post Posted September 1, 2020 On 8/30/2020 at 5:21 PM, tsunkasapa said: And confine the stitches to JUST the belt loop. Do not start the stitching in the "base" of the project, but rather start 1/2 stitch length from the edge of the loop. I'm a little confused about what you mean with the stitching, tsunk. I stitched around the entire project because I've got a lining in it and it looked better in my opinion. I stitched over the edges of my belt loops because otherwise you have a higher load on the thread and it's liable to snap (happened to me). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tsunkasapa Report post Posted September 4, 2020 "I stitched over the edges of my belt loops because otherwise you have a higher load on the thread and it's liable to snap (happened to me)." What were you carrying that put THAT much load on the thread? I've done harness repairs for sled dogs and never had the thread fail. I would look at the thread you are using if that is the case. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frodo Report post Posted September 4, 2020 25 minutes ago, tsunkasapa said: "I stitched over the edges of my belt loops because otherwise you have a higher load on the thread and it's liable to snap (happened to me)." What were you carrying that put THAT much load on the thread? I've done harness repairs for sled dogs and never had the thread fail. I would look at the thread you are using if that is the case. Learn me sum'n i stitch over my belt loops to keep the edge of the leather from catching on stuff and curling up how do you do yours? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tsunkasapa Report post Posted September 4, 2020 (edited) I start 1/2 the distance of a stitch (aprox. 1/16-)from the edge. All stitching is confined to the belt loop itself. Never had a curl up, never had a thread fail. YMMV Edited September 4, 2020 by tsunkasapa Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tsunkasapa Report post Posted September 4, 2020 For the record, the old saddler that taught me said that starting your stitching from your "background" was a rookie mistake. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hildebrand Report post Posted September 4, 2020 I always thought that looked like a likely place for something to catch the thread and potentially cut it allowing the stitches to unravel. Seemed cleaner and safer for the thread to all be on the belt loop. Todd Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FrenchMich Report post Posted September 5, 2020 Hello, Some main critics : Your flap is too short, It could be better if it's was longer to have your carving in a flat surface (not on the radius of the fold). Moreover with the stiffness of leather, it will be easier to keep it closed. Edges lack of finshing with burnisher and you must tame your edger (too much irregular) and insist more on the interior faces. Concerning the carving my opinion is : - It's missing a stop line between the and of carving and your sew. Presently, it's your sewing line which stop your carving. - It looks like you don't used beveler? It lack of volum, mostly inside the flower. if you improve these few items at first, the result will already be different Mich' Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TargetRockLeather Report post Posted September 5, 2020 19 hours ago, tsunkasapa said: I start 1/2 the distance of a stitch (aprox. 1/16-)from the edge. All stitching is confined to the belt loop itself. Never had a curl up, never had a thread fail. YMMV I've often wondered which way is more correct. I've used both methods and can't decide which I like better or which is more durable. It seems that there are varying opinions. personally I prefer the "look" of your method (not stitching the base) but I thought extending one stitch beyond the end of the loop might be more secure. Is either method more "correct" than the other? Might be an interesting topic for discussion. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Leather20 Report post Posted September 7, 2020 On 9/4/2020 at 11:11 AM, tsunkasapa said: "I stitched over the edges of my belt loops because otherwise you have a higher load on the thread and it's liable to snap (happened to me)." What were you carrying that put THAT much load on the thread? I've done harness repairs for sled dogs and never had the thread fail. I would look at the thread you are using if that is the case. Okay, I understand what you're saying. The load was a phone. I wonder though if it was a result of the edges curling up like Frodo said and something caught it repeatedly which caused the weak spot. Also, I've found that starting on the inside of the adds more play into the stitch which has been disconsterting to me. On 9/5/2020 at 4:19 AM, FrenchMich said: Hello, Some main critics : Your flap is too short, It could be better if it's was longer to have your carving in a flat surface (not on the radius of the fold). Moreover with the stiffness of leather, it will be easier to keep it closed. Edges lack of finshing with burnisher and you must tame your edger (too much irregular) and insist more on the interior faces. Concerning the carving my opinion is : - It's missing a stop line between the and of carving and your sew. Presently, it's your sewing line which stop your carving. - It looks like you don't used beveler? It lack of volum, mostly inside the flower. if you improve these few items at first, the result will already be different Mich' I agree, that my flap was too short. The edges were burnished although the edge bevel was irregular. Could you explain what you mean when you say "insist more on the interior faces"? In regard to the beveler, I did bevel my initial carving. Inside the flower, most of the lines (the three on each pedal) are decorative cuts and unbeveled. All other lines are beveled. Should decorative cuts be beveled? Thank you all for the input! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tsunkasapa Report post Posted September 15, 2020 Something I forgot to mention, because I always do it and take it for granted. I always start my stitching in hole #4 and sew BACK to #1. I then sew back to the last hole and backstitch 3 stitches. This creates a "thread rivet" that resists breaking. You might also consider a folded belt loop. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites