Etsy update, prohibited items

[tsunkasapa]

9 hours ago, Rahere said:

OK, the big hammer then. Right now, Robert Schumann, the founder of the operation I went on not only to work in, but to complete, is up for Sainthood in the Church. We already have a Nobel Peace Prize in 2012, for the reintegration of Europe, which I led on and actually got to make happen, myself being detailed off the welcome the First Secretaries and Defence Attachés of the Eastern European States, the first morning of the first step into full accession into Europe, with the Western European Union. I later completed Gandhi's work, tying up the loose end he was working on when he was assassinated, not as a personal initiative, but because the Nation concerned came to me and asked me to help, so I did, making something new, exactly as you make something new when you take a knife to leather, with an idea in mind, experience to make it happen, and the resources to deliver to hand. But you know what? It was lined up for me on high, only an utter idiot could miss. As the office boss Javier Solana said, so unexpected was it, "How on earth did that happen?" This is why Rome's scaling it up further, because the credit goes to the bloke on the cloud.

The essence of it is that, as Henry Ford said, history is bunk. It's not where you were, but where you're going. Living in the past, wallowing in partly-fabulated mythology passing as history, just leaves you repeating the same old mistakes. I'm not a redcoat with a stock driving my head up into the sky, an ill-educated horny-handed son of a plough. They tell me I may gave set the top bar for brains. My reply is I was made that way because it was the only way a human could cope with the Boss, 'im Upstairs, however you know him. I'm the worthy child of my parents, my dad left us with hip implant technology, the ISO Standard for Pressure Vessels used in nuclear reactors, and the coordination which saved thousands of lives at the start of this pandemic, turning idle manufacturing plant to produce medical ventilators in just four days. After succeeding with the ISO standard, he did exactly what you would have done, made a masterpiece to celebrate, firing up his forge and crafting the first Pressure Vessel Quality Advisory Board certification stamp. Mum was former SOE, a Resistance fighter in Belgium, who went on to work as PA to Krishna Mennon,  the Indian High Commissioner in London in 1946-7, during the Indian Independance talks. And that is why I have the authority to cite the Mahatma's reply when asked about Western Civilisation. He said it would be a good idea. Make it so.

What I did was nail Clausewitz' nonsense, that war is the continuation of policy by other means. Glib, certainly, but shortsighted. No war has gone on eternally. I'm actually an academic expert in the roots of the Enlightenment, and part of that is shaking out from the near-collapse of Europe in the wake of the Black Death. It's a lesson in power play I well understand as a former European Crisis Manager, the finance man in the CFSP State Department. I saved Albania in 1997, at the head of the team of economic experts who sorted the wreckage of the Ponzi scheme which wrecked their economy, and did the pathfinding for Malta's accession to Europe. Essentially, given all wars end in peace talks once they've exhausted their economies, why start? My own body, the Western European Union, was born from the team of Civil Servants sent in in the wake of the Allied Armies to sort that mess out in 1944. That turned into The Western European Defence Organisation, and spun NATO off.

So don't talk to me about future fears, please, you've over-egged the case. The UK's a generation since we disarmed our civil community, and is still producing the world's finest soldiers. Kids wandering around pretending to be a militia are just a joke, a sick one, admittedly, but none the less not to be taken seriously. I've spent 18 years as a top professional keeping the peace and have been personally recognised by the Heads of State, which is quite a story. I have the gongs. I'm fully certified both psychologically, by the Church of England, and Harley Street, as a seer medium, my weird having done its bit in full view of both the top medics and half the UK Government in 2015, accurately handling at four hours notice a major strategic issue, which from my side simply meant digging the study paper I'd started working on six months previously, knowing the question was coming my way. It may have caused the current fixation on geeks and misfits.

You may dismiss this as Mitty syndrome - I'd reply you're actually perpetrating Cassandra's Curse. These things don't just happen, people like me make them happen. What am I doing here? Because one essential prerequisite of having your head in the clouds is keeping your feet on the ground. As I demonstrated in the Mexican harness thread, I also spin and work in rope. And long may that continue.

Rant on, no one is listening.

[Rubicon04]

On 5/14/2021 at 4:43 PM, YinTx said:

Sounds like they need a competing platform that doesn't hawk imported low cost mass produced items as "handmade in the USA," and does not restrict items related to our rights to keep and bear arms.  Surprised such a platform is not already in existence.   Or maybe it is and I don't know about it yet?

YinTx

I was just talking about this with my wife the other day. A new "Etsy" site needs to be created for actual handmade items. Etsy is pointless anymore with all the mass produced junk allowed to be posted now. 

Edited June 21, 2021 by Rubicon04

[Sheilajeanne]

What's that for, Frodo? To hang on a Christmas tree? 

If so, ugh.

[Rahere]

 

49 minutes ago, chuck123wapati said:

LMAO  what a bs story you can tell. sorry i didn't read it.    NO ITS OUR BILL OF RIGHTS.

You didn't read something which left you weeping. Figures. There's gaps in your bill of materials, mate. Your interpretation of the Second Amendment doesn't hold water, in context. "A well-regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed." What's missing from your application of it is that NOWHERE is there any right to keep the said Arms loaded, let alone to use them in flagrant breach of a legal text superior to and binding on your Constitution, the UDHR, as legally empowered by the ICCPR in 1976. As I said earlier, keep your ammunition away from the guns. The sole legal purpose is laid down in the preamble clause, the defence of your Nation, as part of it's legally-constituted Militia. Which well-regulated Militia (ie National Guard) unit are you part of? Stretching it to breaking point, your registration as a potential draftee lapsed on your 46th birthday. You don't qualify under the Constitution. Your barack-room lawyer interpretation doesn't hold water, because it omits huge amounts of pertinent law. And yes, I am a Constitutional lawyer appointed by the Belgian Supreme Court, and ratified by our own GB Ministry of Justice, for work done along the way. I even notionally hold the residual onus of the ECHR guarantor WEU, because it wasn't withdrawn before I deposited the closure accounts, although I happily recognise the Council of Europe's functionality in that respect. 

Not even your military have respected the exact letter of the Second Amendment. They've lost enough weapons to outfit a small Division. They haven't kept their arms. Leaving them in a drawer, or in the glove box, or in a purse, doesn't meet my standards as a former professional, I'm afraid. I had to sharpen my own game after the IRA came on the scene, admittedly. If it's not lanyarded to your body when not being cleaned prior to return to Armoury, then it's not kept, you know where it ought to be, but not where it actually is. So even my BS outranks your donkey piss. What is a Militia? As an Officer Cadet, I spent a year with the HQ Squadron of the only one in the British Army, the Royal Monmouthshire Royal Engineers. It's a unit constituted before a Nation had a Standing Army, of professional soldiers living in the civilian community until such time as their specialist skills are needed in defence of their Nation. Our Sappers were mostly miners, I was a logistics specialist employed by a major engineering company. The RMRE are possibly the oldest unit in the world, dating from 1415 or before. In organisational terms, it is listed in a separate section of its own between Regular Army and Reserves, because it's Regular, but not full-time. Your Militias were likewise constituted before you had a Regular Army. They do not include self-appointed posses like the Proud Boys, the Symbian Liberation Army, the Provisional Irish Liberation Army, the Branch Davidians or any locally self-constituted branch of the Islamic Front, just to cite a few examples. They rate as terrorists. Which are you? Lawful or unlawful?

Your prisons hold many who've adopted a similar viewpoint to yours, many having moved on via a short walk to a gurney to the ultimate Appeals Court before the Boss. The reason they're there is because of the harm they've done to others. Don't encourage others to do likewise, please, not all are at my end of the scale when it comes to understanding. Of course I understand the craft, I've instructed weapons long since. I appreciate a well-fitted sling in accuracy. But I also thank the Boss that I don't need to. We've had nearly 80 years since we had a world war. If we can keep going, maybe the term will become synonymous with criminal insanity. As it is, the gaps in your argument suggest it's time you had a long hard look at yourself. You transgress the basic norms of society. The Rev will appreciate Christ's simplification of Law to "Love God, love your neighbour as yourself". Where's that in your pervertion of the Bill of Rights? Let me modernise it's language for you. "Members of a Nationally-regulated Militia may store their weapons at home, to be able to respond with full and proper kit in a time of emergency." It doesn't stretch to the likes of Patricia McCloskey, sentenced last week for waving a pistol in threat at people exercising their Article 1 rights to freedom of speech in protest. Her weapon and her husband's are being destroyed, by Law. 

[chuck123wapati]

6 minutes ago, Rahere said:

 

You didn't read something which left you weeping. Figures. There's gaps in your bill of materials, mate. Your interpretation of the Second Amendment doesn't hold water, in context. "A well-regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed." What's missing from your application of it is that NOWHERE is there any right to keep the said Arms loaded, let alone to use them in flagrant breach of a legal text superior to and binding on your Constitution, the UDHR, as legally empowered by the ICCPR in 1976. As I said earlier, keep your ammunition away from the guns. The sole legal purpose is laid down in the preamble clause, the defence of your Nation, as part of it's legally-constituted Militia. Which well-regulated Militia (ie National Guard) unit are you part of? Stretching it to breaking point, your registration as a potential draftee lapsed on your 46th birthday. You don't qualify under the Constitution. Your barack-room lawyer interpretation doesn't hold water, because it omits huge amounts of pertinent law. And yes, I am a Constitutional lawyer appointed by the Belgian Supreme Court, and ratified by our own GB Ministry of Justice, for work done along the way. I even notionally hold the residual onus of the ECHR guarantor WEU, because it wasn't withdrawn before I deposited the closure accounts, although I happily recognise the Council of Europe's functionality in that respect. 

Not even your military have respected the exact letter of the Second Amendment. They've lost enough weapons to outfit a small Division. They haven't kept their arms. Leaving them in a drawer, or in the glove box, or in a purse, doesn't meet my standards as a former professional, I'm afraid. I had to sharpen my own game after the IRA came on the scene, admittedly. If it's not lanyarded to your body when not being cleaned prior to return to Armoury, then it's not kept, you know where it ought to be, but not where it actually is. So even my BS outranks your donkey piss. What is a Militia? As an Officer Cadet, I spent a year with the HQ Squadron of the only one in the British Army, the Royal Monmouthshire Royal Engineers. It's a unit constituted before a Nation had a Standing Army, of professional soldiers living in the civilian community until such time as their specialist skills are needed in defence of their Nation. Our Sappers were mostly miners, I was a logistics specialist employed by a major engineering company. The RMRE are possibly the oldest unit in the world, dating from 1415 or before. In organisational terms, it is listed in a separate section of its own between Regular Army and Reserves, because it's Regular, but not full-time. Your Militias were likewise constituted before you had a Regular Army. They do not include self-appointed posses like the Proud Boys, the Symbian Liberation Army, the Provisional Irish Liberation Army, the Branch Davidians or any locally self-constituted branch of the Islamic Front, just to cite a few examples. They rate as terrorists. Which are you? Lawful or unlawful?

Your prisons hold many who've adopted a similar viewpoint to yours, many having moved on via a short walk to a gurney to the ultimate Appeals Court before the Boss. The reason they're there is because of the harm they've done to others. Don't encourage others to do likewise, please, not all are at my end of the scale when it comes to understanding. Of course I understand the craft, I've instructed weapons long since. I appreciate a well-fitted sling in accuracy. But I also thank the Boss that I don't need to. We've had nearly 80 years since we had a world war. If we can keep going, maybe the term will become synonymous with criminal insanity. As it is, the gaps in your argument suggest it's time you had a long hard look at yourself. You transgress the basic norms of society. The Rev will appreciate Christ's simplification of Law to "Love God, love your neighbour as yourself". Where's that in your pervertion of the Bill of Rights? Let me modernise it's language for you. "Members of a Nationally-regulated Militia may store their weapons at home, to be able to respond with full and proper kit in a time of emergency." It doesn't stretch to the likes of Patricia McCloskey, sentenced last week for waving a pistol in threat at people exercising their Article 1 rights to freedom of speech in protest. Her weapon and her husband's are being destroyed, by Law. 

LMAO  what a bs story you can tell. sorry i didn't read it.    NO ITS OUR BILL OF RIGHTS.

[Frodo]

1 hour ago, Rahere said:

 

You didn't read something which left you weeping. Figures. There's gaps in your bill of materials, mate. Your interpretation of the Second Amendment doesn't hold water, in context. "A well-regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed." What's missing from your application of it is that NOWHERE is there any right to keep the said Arms loaded, let alone to use them in flagrant breach of a legal text superior to and binding on your Constitution, the UDHR, as legally empowered by the ICCPR in 1976. As I said earlier, keep your ammunition away from the guns. The sole legal purpose is laid down in the preamble clause, the defence of your Nation, as part of it's legally-constituted Militia. Which well-regulated Militia (ie National Guard) unit are you part of? Stretching it to breaking point, your registration as a potential draftee lapsed on your 46th birthday. You don't qualify under the Constitution. Your barack-room lawyer interpretation doesn't hold water, because it omits huge amounts of pertinent law. And yes, I am a Constitutional lawyer appointed by the Belgian Supreme Court, and ratified by our own GB Ministry of Justice, for work done along the way. I even notionally hold the residual onus of the ECHR guarantor WEU, because it wasn't withdrawn before I deposited the closure accounts, although I happily recognise the Council of Europe's functionality in that respect. 

Not even your military have respected the exact letter of the Second Amendment. They've lost enough weapons to outfit a small Division. They haven't kept their arms. Leaving them in a drawer, or in the glove box, or in a purse, doesn't meet my standards as a former professional, I'm afraid. I had to sharpen my own game after the IRA came on the scene, admittedly. If it's not lanyarded to your body when not being cleaned prior to return to Armoury, then it's not kept, you know where it ought to be, but not where it actually is. So even my BS outranks your donkey piss. What is a Militia? As an Officer Cadet, I spent a year with the HQ Squadron of the only one in the British Army, the Royal Monmouthshire Royal Engineers. It's a unit constituted before a Nation had a Standing Army, of professional soldiers living in the civilian community until such time as their specialist skills are needed in defence of their Nation. Our Sappers were mostly miners, I was a logistics specialist employed by a major engineering company. The RMRE are possibly the oldest unit in the world, dating from 1415 or before. In organisational terms, it is listed in a separate section of its own between Regular Army and Reserves, because it's Regular, but not full-time. Your Militias were likewise constituted before you had a Regular Army. They do not include self-appointed posses like the Proud Boys, the Symbian Liberation Army, the Provisional Irish Liberation Army, the Branch Davidians or any locally self-constituted branch of the Islamic Front, just to cite a few examples. They rate as terrorists. Which are you? Lawful or unlawful?

Your prisons hold many who've adopted a similar viewpoint to yours, many having moved on via a short walk to a gurney to the ultimate Appeals Court before the Boss. The reason they're there is because of the harm they've done to others. Don't encourage others to do likewise, please, not all are at my end of the scale when it comes to understanding. Of course I understand the craft, I've instructed weapons long since. I appreciate a well-fitted sling in accuracy. But I also thank the Boss that I don't need to. We've had nearly 80 years since we had a world war. If we can keep going, maybe the term will become synonymous with criminal insanity. As it is, the gaps in your argument suggest it's time you had a long hard look at yourself. You transgress the basic norms of society. The Rev will appreciate Christ's simplification of Law to "Love God, love your neighbour as yourself". Where's that in your pervertion of the Bill of Rights? Let me modernise it's language for you. "Members of a Nationally-regulated Militia may store their weapons at home, to be able to respond with full and proper kit in a time of emergency." It doesn't stretch to the likes of Patricia McCloskey, sentenced last week for waving a pistol in threat at people exercising their Article 1 rights to freedom of speech in protest. Her weapon and her husband's are being destroyed, by Law. 

Some people lack a formal education. It is not their fault and you should not publicly shame them for not knowing

I will not try and shame you I will simple state the facts as they are, not as you think they are.

Amendment II

A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.

In the 2008 case District of Columbia v. Heller, the Supreme Court held that the "Second Amendment protects an individual right to possess a firearm unconnected with service in a militia, and to use that arm for traditionally lawful purposes, such as self-defense within the home."

Secondly,  Lets address the absurd statement. ''What's missing from your application of it is that NOWHERE is there any right to keep the said Arms loaded''

allow me to show you the very definition of the word '"'Arms"

arms

[ärmz]

 

NOUN

1. weapons and ammunition; armaments.

   "arms exports" · 

   [more]

   synonyms:

   weapons (of war) · weaponry · firearms · guns · ordnance · cannon · artillery · armaments · munitions · instruments of war · war machines · military supplies · materiel

    

   I stopped reading the gibberish after the the first paragraph.  I simply could not go any further 

   I sincerely hope I have helped with your education.

   regards  fro

2 hours ago, Sheilajeanne said:

What's that for, Frodo? To hang on a Christmas tree? 

If so, ugh.

YEP...pretty funky. 

[chuck123wapati]

3 minutes ago, Frodo said:

Some people lack a formal education. It is not their fault and you should not publicly shame them for not knowing

I will not try and shame you I will simple state the facts as they are, not as you think they are.

Amendment II

A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.

In the 2008 case District of Columbia v. Heller, the Supreme Court held that the "Second Amendment protects an individual right to possess a firearm unconnected with service in a militia, and to use that arm for traditionally lawful purposes, such as self-defense within the home."

Secondly,  Lets address the absurd statement. ''What's missing from your application of it is that NOWHERE is there any right to keep the said Arms loaded''

allow me to show you the very definition of the word '"'Arms"

arms

[ärmz]

 

NOUN

1. weapons and ammunition; armaments.

   "arms exports" · 

   [more]

   synonyms:

   weapons (of war) · weaponry · firearms · guns · ordnance · cannon · artillery · armaments · munitions · instruments of war · war machines · military supplies · materiel

    

   I stopped reading the gibberish after the the first paragraph.  I simply could not go any further 

   I sincerely hope I have helped with your education.

   regards  fro

YEP...pretty funky. 

 

8 minutes ago, Frodo said:

Some people lack a formal education. It is not their fault and you should not publicly shame them for not knowing

I will not try and shame you I will simple state the facts as they are, not as you think they are.

Amendment II

A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.

In the 2008 case District of Columbia v. Heller, the Supreme Court held that the "Second Amendment protects an individual right to possess a firearm unconnected with service in a militia, and to use that arm for traditionally lawful purposes, such as self-defense within the home."

Secondly,  Lets address the absurd statement. ''What's missing from your application of it is that NOWHERE is there any right to keep the said Arms loaded''

allow me to show you the very definition of the word '"'Arms"

arms

[ärmz]

 

NOUN

1. weapons and ammunition; armaments.

   "arms exports" · 

   [more]

   synonyms:

   weapons (of war) · weaponry · firearms · guns · ordnance · cannon · artillery · armaments · munitions · instruments of war · war machines · military supplies · materiel

    

   I stopped reading the gibberish after the the first paragraph.  I simply could not go any further 

   I sincerely hope I have helped with your education.

   regards  fro

YEP...pretty funky. 

What this man doesn't understand, or in fact is ignorant of, is that the second amendment as well as every word in the Bill of Rights has been Interpreted by the supreme court, I consider them the experts in law and my education level or whos ever he tried to smear even if he did know it, much like his conjecture on the future,  is irrelevant.  My interpretation doesn't matter in the least neither does his.

 I don't know why but some folks seem to have a huge chip on their shoulders about the US and wont stop yammering on until they make sure you know it. He does like to talk on about himself doesn't he lol.

[Frodo]

41 minutes ago, chuck123wapati said:

 

What this man doesn't understand, or in fact is ignorant of, is that the second amendment as well as every word in the Bill of Rights has been Interpreted by the supreme court, I consider them the experts in law and my education level or whos ever he tried to smear even if he did know it, much like his conjecture on the future,  is irrelevant.  My interpretation doesn't matter in the least neither does his.

 I don't know why but some folks seem to have a huge chip on their shoulders about the US and wont stop yammering on until they make sure you know it. He does like to talk on about himself doesn't he lol.

I dusted off my trusty calculator and  did some syphering on the tales of accomplishments and have come to the startling fact that he is indeed a very very important person. In that he must be at least 120 years old in order to have the experience that his exploits suggests he has.

 

[Rahere]

Some of what led to my action was indeed that old. That's why I defer to 'Im Upstairs, He'd planned things long before my parents met. We've been aware of it for upwards of 3500 years.

[Rahere]

Supreme Courts aren't the highest. Treaty binds them, and in extremis, the International Court of Justice. In Europe, the European Court of Justice. Treaty is higher than those laws and decisions.

[austinious]

On 6/22/2021 at 11:08 AM, Rahere said:

Supreme Courts aren't the highest. Treaty binds them, and in extremis, the International Court of Justice. In Europe, the European Court of Justice. Treaty is higher than those laws and decisions.

Wait a minute...Are you trying to say that the EU has jurisdiction over the USA?  Ummmmmm, I call BS.  Treaties can be dumped by those involved, like Brexit....  I know, I know....Don't feed the troll....My Bad.

[Rahere]

4 hours ago, austinious said:

Wait a minute...Are you trying to say that the EU has jurisdiction over the USA?  Ummmmmm, I call BS.  Treaties can be dumped by those involved, like Brexit....  I know, I know....Don't feed the troll....My Bad.

No, the Vienna Convention has. That's the UN and ICJ, the basic mechanism for diplomacy. You sign a treaty, you stick with it unless ALL signatories agree to dispense with it (eg Treaty of Brussels 1954). One party cannot ditch it unilaterally just because it doesn't suit. This is why the ICJ exists, to decide if a State has cause for complaint against another, and what a just solution should be. The US won't remain a world leader very long if it starts cowboying around, I assure you. Brexit didn't dump a treaty, it used Article 50 in the Treaty to withdraw, in due and proper legal form. There's a difference.

The EU's German President has a very legalistic outlook, and a distinct dearth of practical experience. She had to be moved out of harms way after she f'ed up her previous job, Defence Minister, by leaving her Army without boots for years. So you may well find dear Ursula's the perfect person to take the US to the ICJ. It might not get her very far, certainly, but it'll give Russia a right belly laugh in response to the US interfering with their pipeline deal. References to Canada are not far away.

Again, the reason the Vienna Convention was created was because your suggested policy was becoming commonplace. This is why your Security Services lined up behind General Milley in January, he talked of a Reichstag moment. That was very much Trump's advertised intent, and could have happened, had the Pretorians backed it. The thought of a new Fuehrer, which would have had most of the rest of the world in kittens had it happened, was clearly ludicrous to all but his hardcore devotees: his retreat to the bunker had many of us thinking of the same precedent.

The world has moved on, and that kind of person isn't fit to lead a horse, let alone the world. He's a throwback, and he knows it. Me? I was 20 years, give or take, a senior staffer in the European State Department, and I'm the only spouse in 70 years to meet the standard set by the Rosenberg Interdict. Seriously. We held Germany's reins from 1945-1990, until such time as the Nazi party had become history. The UK outlaws such bodies routinely, making it a criminal offence to be a member. The US should consider doing likewise: there's plenty of precedent in the activities of the House Un-American Activities Committee, and what could be more un-American than trying to overthrow the Constitution by force?

Edited July 17, 2021 by Rahere

[YinTx]

1 hour ago, Rahere said:

un-American than trying to overthrow the Constitution by force?

You know what, this belongs in the off topic section.

Edited July 17, 2021 by YinTx
this conversation does not belong here

[Rahere]

6 hours ago, YinTx said:

You know what, this belongs in the off topic section.

No, because it still comes back to the basic question of marketability of certain products, things Etsy bans. Unless and until controlled availability is taken seriously everywhere (ie never, because there will always be some fool who knows better), it's hopeless to have it otherwise. I've just been explaining the international legal context, which is not that of the heyday of the cowboy. In the 1930s, what was suggested was true: it led to war, so the ground rules were changed.

Sales control could come up in other areas, too, the risqué end of leatherwork, for example.

[YinTx]

9 hours ago, Rahere said:

because there will always be some fool who knows better

This is laughable for you to say, since you have deemed it your decision whether or not the response I had typed previously belonged in this thread or another.  It was not your decision, it was mine.  And I decided to delete it and explained my decision in the revised post that was left.  Just as it is not your decision who is or is not fit to lead.

 

On 6/21/2021 at 9:48 AM, Rubicon04 said:

I was just talking about this with my wife the other day. A new "Etsy" site needs to be created for actual handmade items. Etsy is pointless anymore with all the mass produced junk allowed to be posted now. 

This.  Is there not another option out there?  Surely there is...

YinTx

[Lobo]

The amazing thing to me is that people still want to do business with the bozos running that site.