kgg Posted November 29, 2021 Report Posted November 29, 2021 (edited) I am planning on turning a 3" diameter burnisher and am wondering what material would be best suited and why for burnishing using a motorized burnisher? metal: steel / brass / aluminum wood: soft woods / hardwoods Any thoughts kgg Edited November 29, 2021 by kgg wording Quote Juki DNU - 1541S, Juki DU - 1181N, Singer 29K - 71(1949), Chinese Patcher (Tinkers Delight), Warlock TSC-441, Techsew 2750 Pro, Consew DCS-S4 Skiver
Members McCarthy Posted November 29, 2021 Members Report Posted November 29, 2021 Cocobolo is pretty much universally respected for burnishing. The grooves darken but don't transfer dye after you wipe it. I have tried oak and didn't like it. Also tried brass and it didn't do much. I have seen someone on youtube using aluminum but I forget who. Sam Andrews maybe. Quote
CFM Hardrada Posted November 29, 2021 CFM Report Posted November 29, 2021 Yeah, cocobolo. I tried using brass with a burnishing attachment for my creasing machine, but it didn't really work that well with Edge Kote. Quote
Members dikman Posted November 29, 2021 Members Report Posted November 29, 2021 Yep, Sam Andrews uses aluminium so it can't be too bad. I made a couple out of wood, one using a hardish wood the other a slightly softer wood and both work fine, but I think hardwood would be better than softwood. Quote Machines wot I have - Singer 51W59; Singer 331K4; Seiko STH-8BLD; Pfaff 335; CB4500. Chinese shoe patcher; Singer 201K (old hand crank)
Members DrmCa Posted November 29, 2021 Members Report Posted November 29, 2021 Cocobolo is pricey. Any hard wood would work. I'd be weary of soft wood as it breaks and wears easily. Quote Machines: Mitsubishi DB-130 single needle, Kansai Special RX-9803/UTC coverstitch, Union Special 56300F chainstitch, Pfaff 335-17 cylinder arm walking foot, Bonis Type A fur machine, Huji 43-6 patcher, Singer 99 hand cranked, Juki DDL-553 single needle (for sale)
kgg Posted November 29, 2021 Author Report Posted November 29, 2021 Thank you all for the info. If I go with wood I would like to us a North American species. I can see the softwoods like spruce cracking / breaking / wearing or even your softer hardwood species where as your tougher hardwoods like your eastern iron woods, white oaks and hard maples being stronger. This info has sent me down the wood rabbit hole and so far have found the following info: A lot burnishers use the non native to North America rosewood Cocobolo which has Janka rating of 2,960 Ibf Native to North America: i) Southern Live Oak (Quercus virginiana) has Janka rating of 2680 Ibf ii) Eastern Ironwood (Ostrya virginiana) has Janka rating of 1,860 Ibf iii) Hard maple has Janka rating of 1,500 Ibf iv) White Oak has Janka rating of 1,360 Ibf As a reference your typical White Spruce has Janka rating of 460 Ibf. This raises the question if a good burnisher is based on hardness why not just go with metal or are there other factors? 9 hours ago, dikman said: Yep, Sam Andrews uses aluminium so it can't be too bad. I couldn't find him so if you have a link I would appreciate it. 11 hours ago, Hardrada said: Yeah, cocobolo. kgg Quote Juki DNU - 1541S, Juki DU - 1181N, Singer 29K - 71(1949), Chinese Patcher (Tinkers Delight), Warlock TSC-441, Techsew 2750 Pro, Consew DCS-S4 Skiver
Members DrmCa Posted November 29, 2021 Members Report Posted November 29, 2021 Do not overthink it. Beech, birch, oak, all of the hardwoods will do just fine. Quote Machines: Mitsubishi DB-130 single needle, Kansai Special RX-9803/UTC coverstitch, Union Special 56300F chainstitch, Pfaff 335-17 cylinder arm walking foot, Bonis Type A fur machine, Huji 43-6 patcher, Singer 99 hand cranked, Juki DDL-553 single needle (for sale)
Members Cumberland Highpower Posted November 29, 2021 Members Report Posted November 29, 2021 (edited) i found long ago elm made a good hard burnishing head. oak seemed the least stable. maybe the grain structure? Edited November 29, 2021 by Cumberland Highpower Quote
Contributing Member JLSleather Posted November 29, 2021 Contributing Member Report Posted November 29, 2021 oak is very good - and in N. America it's everywhere Quote "Observation is 9/10 of the law." IF what you do is something that ANYBODY can do, then don't be surprised when ANYBODY does.
CFM Hardrada Posted November 29, 2021 CFM Report Posted November 29, 2021 This is mine: http://www.proedgeburnishers.com/hand-burnishers.html Posting as reference, since the OP mentioned he wants to turn his own. They make burnishers for machines too: http://www.proedgeburnishers.com/motor-burnishers.html Quote
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