Does this work??

[chuck123wapati]

On 3/14/2022 at 12:38 AM, fredk said:

Studying the video; the guy's watch, is at about 4.25.15 at video time 7.54 when he forces the wood block into the main pouch, the watch is still at 4.25.?? at video time of 8.09 when he is boning the shape, he started the shaping at video time 8.05. None of the the items on the bench, other than the mallet, has moved during this sequence. 

Therefore that sequence may have been filmed in real time or a full 12 or 24 hours later

But there is an edit cut at video time 8.04 thru 8.05 to 8.06

At 8.14 we see the worker polishing up the case, but the wood former is still enclosed. A cut-away to the badge, 8.24, then we see the case being put in the display cabinet, 8.27. An out-of time edit;  In between, was the leather drying out?

there is also a woman doing some of the steps, i see a few different hands in there. I would think he moistened the inner veg tan sometime before putting in the molds and between that and running the bone folder around the stitch lines set the shape.

Edited March 15, 2022 by chuck123wapati

[Tequila]

Once I’m done with my current project I’m going to wet mold a cigar case.  I like the exotic skin they used in the video but I think I’ll just start out with a plain veg tan and see how it goes.  

[Leescustomleather]

All of the finished products they show are full of cigars or paraphernalia, I wonder if the cases are just stretched to fit the molds and when empty can be flattened out again.

   This makes more sense to me because that veg tan looked to be 2 / 3oz. and if hardened would have a tendency to be crushed if kept in a pocket empty, however I don't smoke cigars and have never had a cigar case, so these are just guesses

[Bert03241]

The case's are wet molded and should hold there shape even when empty

[Dwight]

46 minutes ago, Bert03241 said:

The case's are wet molded and should hold there shape even when empty

I'm with Bert on this one . . . the dry cases would have flattened back out once the wood mold was pulled out.

From knife sheaths . . . mag holders . . . and holsters . . . I can tell you that if properly moistened . . . only 10 to 20 minutes is needed in the mold . . . and the creasing could easily have been done at the end of the 10 minutes . . . wood form pulled . . . and it would have been good to go.

Guy would only need about 3 or 4 at the most of those inserts to stay busy for 8 hours straight . . . just dampening . . . molding . . . and edging.

But I have to admit . . . sure looks like an awful lot of work when a shirt pocket will do the same . . . and it comes free with the shirt.  Those cigar holders ain't cheap in anyone's book . . . 

May God bless,

Dwight

Edited April 9, 2022 by Dwight

[Leescustomleather]

23 hours ago, Bert03241 said:

The case's are wet molded and should hold there shape even when empty

Perhaps you are right, I guess the real mystery is after showing every other process why they would omit that one? 

[Tequila]

@Dwight I don’t understand when you say “properly moistened”, how wet is that?  The couple of times that I wet molded it took overnight to dry, so I’m guessing that I must have  over-wetted the leather.  Thanks for any advice. 

[Handstitched]

Just about everything I've made thats needed shaping, knife cases ( leatherman types etc.) I've always wet molded . I guess another way is  , although I haven't tried it myself...yet,  is to wet mold two identical shapes, so you have two halves,  leaving a ' lip'  or an edge to stitch, so  when dry ,  cut,  shape, dye etc. and bring the two halves together, like making a home made Easter egg and joining them together, but you're sewing them  instead of using chocolate. Just a thought.  

Never sewn chocolate before .  Thats just silly .

HS

[fredk]

28 minutes ago, Handstitched said:

. . . I guess another way is  , although I haven't tried it myself...yet,  is to wet mold two identical shapes, so you have two halves,  leaving a ' lip'  or an edge to stitch, so  when dry ,  cut,  shape, dye etc. and bring the two halves together, like making a home made Easter egg and joining them together, but you're sewing them  instead of using chocolate. Just a thought.  . . . 

I've done that on a few items

The only one I have a photo of happens to be an egg.

This is the prototype and I'm still working on perfecting it. The initial idea* came from No.3 son many years ago after he saw a certain box thing in one of Olaf Goubitz' books

Two near identical halves were wet moulded, then they were glued together around a large plaster egg. They were sewn together, allowing a gap for where it was cut open

  

Shrinkage of the leather is the main problem. I'm thinking of a papier-mâché core with the leather on that, still wet moulded of course

* kinda long story to that

Edited April 10, 2022 by fredk

[Handstitched]

1 hour ago, fredk said:

I've done that on a few items

 I don't wish to hijack this thread too much, but thats just bloody clever.

Do you mind if I try that?

I just searched that name. Theres a lot of ideas &  inspirational stuff  .

HS