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Thanks Mattias, But the synchronizer should be together with the motor, it is normally included in the motor package. If you do not see it (like on my Efka) it is an internal one. This new modern motor system surely calculates the belt slippage and everything. I know that the Efka counterpart, the 1550 is strong enough to propel a 441 or a 205-370 with out any speed reducer. Even on the biggest tasks. I see no reason that the Ho Sing 1 hp AC motor will not. No worries, it will be strong and slow enough. If you have the data sheet on it, send it over and I will have a look at it later. I have some experience with similar applications, and know the terms and language. You must have the motor on the top of the table because of the boats hull shape, am I correct? You must remember to mount the motor in a way that you will be able to adjust the belt tension (without a speed reducer that is no problem. With one is difficult, because you have to place the reducer in a way that makes it possible to tension both belt) you must have a place for the thread rack too. It will need a thread rack that pulls thread of the top of the thread spool (the machine want sew proper without it). In addition, you will need a belt cover to avoid thread (or anything else) in your motor, that is now in an exposed position. This is the tings you should have in mind when you building the machine stand. It might be other concerns too, it is best to study the motor instructions well before you start. (I can help you with that; I can also give you my skype number if needed) Those Instructions can be frightening, building up a machine can be very time consuming even for a trained sewing machine engineer. The Shipping price was not too bad; do you have as much as 35 % VAT? Here it is 25 %. Thanks for the invitation, if I am in Sweden I let you know. I hope this will help a bit. Send me the data sheet and I have a look. Trox [

Remember when I was a young man I had a very strong Yamaha 350cc motorbike. It was a two-stroke engine; I had to feed it with chains and sprockets. I had to drive over the border to Sweden to buy them, it was too expensive here. Every week it wanted a new drive packet. After that time, I am allergic to sprockets.

Yes, I have ordered some great looking suspending guides (drop down guides) @ some great prices. Great customer service too, I cannot wait to get them. The prices is so low, it almost feels criminal. I will post all about it when I receive it. Trox.

http://parts.singerco.com/IPinstManuals/132B26.pdf This can be used for the 132K, the 31K http://parts.singerco.com/IPinstManuals/31K.pdf pdf is also in the list at Singerco.com industrial Trox

Hi Wiz It might work, but I do not understand why he cannot use a V belt like the rest of us. There is nothing special about it, only that he should use it in a boat and mount the motor on the back to save space. He will not sew very thick, handbags and such. A V-belt, the right size and profile type will work just fine. Trox

Hi Rob, the bar that you are referring to is a leaf spring for the presser foot, not all classes/subclasses has it, your not. The feet’s is a binding foot set, you can buy feet’s for the machine class 1245 and 335. All kinds are available and will fit your machine. I cannot see anything else that is missing (at first sight). That cover plate can cost several hundred $ @ Pfaff. It would not surprise me if it does. Maybe Toledo Bob (sewmun) has one, or something from an other machine will fit, but I doubt it both. Part list is here ; http://www.universalsewing.com/tek9.asp?pg=parts_pfaff Trox

Tjena Mattias, Not new computer but new Internet provider (the company that deliver my broadband Internet connection) But thanks anyway. You ordered the machine already, but you bought the motor from Imca. Can you pls. tell me the price for the head with shipping? (Send it in a Personal message if you prefer) I am also considering buying a head only. But I have to sell some of the machines I already have to get more room, he he. Say hello to Steve from me if you talk to him, He is a great guy. The motor you bought is the new Ac motor from Ho Sing; I was wondering when they start to use this system in the sewing industry. I have been using the same system for a while on the old three phase clutch motors I have. This is the system used in all other industry today. It is a normal AC motor and a small computer controlling the currents frequency among other. All parameters can be set; you can connect a pot meter to adjust the speed and so on. Yours is the same but more advanced. I have some machines with three phase motors, both clutches a continuous drive motors. With only single-phase current in my workshop, I had to change the motors or the electrical system, the solution was the frequency converter (a small computer controlling the AC motor and changing the current, it is the same system). With this system, I can get a three-phase clutch motor to run as slow as I want. (The machine can be set to sew one stitch a day if I want). It works very well. However, your system is a complete solution. Which mini motor did you buy? I do not know the system with an internal synchronizer, but the normal one is mounted on the machine hand wheel. It count’s rotations and do not loose any accuracy with belt slippage. The machine hand wheels have a V belt pulley, it is a big heavy wheel to add torque and speed reduction. How do you plan to attach it to a flat-toothed belt? To do that you need a new hand wheel. Cowboy sells a bigger wheel upgrade, but it is still a V belt. The pulley on the motor must be as small as possible (50 mm or less) and the machine pulley as big as possible. The 750W AC motor would do the job, if not add a speed reducer. Look at the big monster Adler 120 (built on license from DA of http://www.sl-spezial.de/sl/index.php/company.html ) It has a mini servo (Efka 1550 with a planet gear for extra torque) mounted on the back. If you are not sure about the strength of the motor, you can ask Steve about what he thinks; and ask him to send with a speed reducer just in case. (It depends of the AC motor you bought) Or you can ask Gregg from Keystone sewing, he sells the ho sing, many other motors and all kinds of sewing machines ( he is a member here) You were right buying a Cobra; I have heard that Global is just a machine branding. The quality can be changing. However, Ho Sing is a pro motor. In addition, you bought a presser foot lift solenoid; it will be a great machine. You must post some pictures of it here. The Ho sing pimped boat Cobra. I cannot wait to see it. Good luck. Trox

You must email them the for prices. Trox

Hi , If you are a bit handy, buy a drop down guide for that machine brand your machine is a clone of, Adler, Singer, Juki or Seiko. Alternatively, for the one whom is the closest fit. Sometimes you will find something that bolts right on. If not, you must drill a couple of holes in the head, and thread them, to fit the guide. There are companies selling reasonable priced drop down guides. I believe http://www.kwokhing.com/guide/ has some. If you ask the Leather Guru, he knows of a Belgian company who has a lot of stuff too. I know somebody here who has bought attachments from Kwokhing in Hong Kong, and the price was very good (they use Paypal too). Forget the old style guide, this style is the real labor saving device, this is what you need for topstitching, and more. I am in the process of ordering stuff from them myself. Just a tip, Trox

Hi Sewingtec, Thanks, I was lucky to get help from a friend. I think this solves my problem this time. Thanks. Trox

Thank you Ralph, If you do not want any money, I sure own you a big favor. Maybe you will need anything I can help you with, or somthing from scandinavia. Do not hesitate to ask me. You are the best. Not only a great craftman, but a great human being too. Please send me an email with your account number or Paypal details so I can pay you for the shipping at least. Thanks Trox

Here is a picture of a Consew 227 with a sync. raw edge binder that Coryleif sent me. I has a cut of presser foot and a short front foot. Trox

You are the miracle Ralph, Thanks again. But don’t you still have a Pfaff 335 that can use those feet? I do not have any picture of those feet’s, but it is drawings of them in the subclass part list attached. If you look at the sub class -H3 17/01 and the above part numbers. It looks like a standard left foot with a short and wide vibrating presser (front) foot. I guess that is easier to see when the binder is in place and modify them then. (However, the Pfaff feet’s are very hard tempered, I had to grind a bit on mine, and it was very hard) Thanks Trox kgi582aa.pdf

Hi Sewingtec, Thanks, but it looks like I will get some help from my friend Ralph (Leather Guru). I also have some options to buy from a low price Hong Kong company kwokhing.com, If I can get in contact with them. But thanks for your help, you are doing a great job on sew24.com providing manuals and obsolute parts. Thanks Trox

Hi Ralph and Sewingtec, My Internet line has been down because of an ISP change. It is hard to follow up these topics on an Iphone, but broadband line is up again now. Thank you my good friend Ralph, but you must accept some payment for it. I do not have any experience with the binding operation, but I can see the necessity of a synchronized operation cause of the walking foot. Is it possible to connect your swing away bracket to the feed dog? If so the only thing I need more is the needle plate for the subclass -H3 17/01, # 91-040 701-04. This is a plate with a cut out for the synchronized binder bracket. If I can not find one, I can do as you did and modify a standard plate. The binder foot set has the number # 91-042 819-93 x 5, 0 and # 91-040 432-04 x 8. Or I can use a clone product. Thank you again Ralph, think of a price, if you have Paypal it is easy to send you money. I have also received a PM from Coryleif, he informed me about a Hong Kong company; kwokhing.com. These are the prices of the binders he purchased from them: KHF2 (S thickness) 26mm USD 12.30 KHF8 Single Fold 1" USD 8.40 KHF66 1" USD 12.30. I have not had time to contact them yet. Thanks Trox

Tjenere Mattias, Good choise, make sure you order a motor with ESP ( position). and 220v. Steve is the best Guy you can buy from. It is importent that the Dealer will support you, even when you live so far away as we do. Steve will Do just that, thats his "thing". Pls tell me what you have to pay for the shipping and the Swedish handling, when you know so. You can send me a PM or a mail. How long do you have to wait for the machine? Or did he have one in stock. I have never used a cutting machine like that, I work mostly with leather using my head knife. It's looks very modern and with out cord too, great deal. I will be with out ISP some days, because of changing to a new one. I am currently using my phone, it is a hustle. Send me a picture when you receive your new Cobra machine. Good luck. Thanks, Trox quote name='GONG' timestamp='1328394273' post='232789'] Tjena Trox You have told me a lot of valuable information. Thanks! It´s big that you´re not pissed that we colonized you. I ordered a Cobra 4 from Steve and his cowboy mates. I just couldn´t resist when I saw that picture. Can you get more cool? But the machine seem nice and also improved. Thank´s for the tip! The bags I sew are heavy duty. Thickest imaginable canvas and leaver. And thick webbing. I make tool bags and bags for heavy equipement. Also if you want to look more manly you can have them. If it gets to thin then I can use a Durkopp 239 that I bought on an add. It misses a couple of pieces but it really looks brand new. Looking for an exploded view picture on it so the right parts can be ordered. I bought an Eastman 134 cutter on a flea market yesterday but it´s so big. Have you tried this? (picture) Again Thanks a lot. GONG

G`Day to you HS, Some machine brands recomend to use a drop of locktite on that screw. It might be a good idea. Trox

Hi Darren, I made a choice. I do not have unlimited space to store them, or time to restore them. I decided to buy some other machines with cylinder bed instead. However, it was not an easy choice, they are very special, and do their work very well if restored. A new machine with the same rating will cost a fortune. Nevertheless, there is no marked for them here in Norway. I can fill up a 40-foot’s container with old sewing machines and ship them down to you Darren. Those machine like Singer 29K 31- 15, 99, 66 sells for nothing her. They sell them for 45 $ in a second hand/ antique shop. When sold private, less than that. Here is a complete sewing shop for sale 49000 NOK (8450 USD). http://www.finn.no/finn/torget/tilsalgs/annonse?finnkode=32895008 The machines are not leather working, they are old but in good working conditions (click on the picture to see them all). This shop has been for sale for a long time, and nobody wants it. The Norwegians has too much money, nobody want to work as an artisan any more. We import all the stuff we need, the only thing we produce here is Oil, gas (bio plastic from oil) and fish. People like me, who works with their hands, do it because they love it, not for the money. Nearly every week I see a story like this; a shoe repair shop or such for sale for less than nothing does. (I have a complete shoe repair shop for sale my self, the owner went bankrupt and I help him rescuing his machines. Stored them in a friend’s rental stock. The owner could not pay any rent, he owns my friend four years of storage fees. We have to sell all his machines to cover the bill. The shop owner has disappeared, moved to a foreign country, nobody have heard from him since) this is a very sad but common story here in Norway; the cost of producing is too high to make a business. Then again, it is no marked for second hands machines anymore. (The only machines who sells are big leatherworking ones with cylinder bed and such). I have to take this in account when buying a machine to refurbish. I past on many machines like the Adler 20 and the Singer 7. Three to four years ago they was worth something, but with all the cheap Chinese machines doing the job for a fraction of the price, they will not sell anymore. Ask the USA dealer. 　 Gregg; when was the last time you sold one like that. Find me a marked and I start to collect them. Trox

Hi Mattias, First of all, that was not my web page you looked at. It is Olav Nyby in Furnes Norway who also sells a 441 clone machine. (At the bottom of his site for 25 K Nok.) The first clone he sold was an Artisan 3200. I do not know what brand he sells now, he imports from USA. (Not Artisan) There are no machine that can sew all thicknesses and thread sizes. For your kind of work, the best machine would be a medium triple feed cylinder or post bed. A narrow cylinder like the Pfaff 335, Juki 145, 245, Dürkopp Adler 69, or a 669 will be good for small stuff. But they have a small bobbin and can not take heavy thread. A medium heavy machine like the new D.A. 869, will do the job and take threads up to tkt 10 (synthetic), it is a new version of my Pfaff 345-H3 with big bobbin, high lift. Similar Juki is; LS 1340 serial. Those machines will sew up to 10-11 mm thick and be much better on soft skin and thin bag leather than the big 441 machine is. The 441 is a machine for extreme heavy work, it has a long needle and big foot lift. Thin needles will brake easily. Those machines performs better on thicker work like harnesses, Saddles and holsters with many layer of thick leather. Sewing thick thread on thin leather is a difficult task, in order to make the seams look good, the thread loop must be adjusted to be in the middle of the material. Not lay on the top, or on the bottom. With thick thread and thin material there will be little to no room for the thread loop. It is possible to get right with a lot of adjustments every time. You will experience this when you start working with those heavy threads. Finishing seams with thick thread is also a challenge if you want quality work. There is a reason why bag makers uses the thread sizes they do. I have seven sewing machines myself, rating from medium heavy to extreme heavy. I do a lot of work on leather back packs and bags; I always use the medium triple feed machines for this kind of work. Take the material you will use in your bags, bring it with you to a sewing machine dealer and make some test seam. Measure its thickness and ask them to find the best machine for the job. All I am saying is the biggest tool is not necessary the best one for the job. I have not received the price on the head yet, but the used 441 was already sold for 15000 Nok. Too bad. I will send you a PM when I receive the quote. Trox

Hi Sewingtec, Thanks, I need a binder for leather. I cannot find any feed dog or needle plate for my 345-H3 in your site. I have not chosen any yet; I am trying to find the support bracket, needle plate and feed dog. All the parts I need for a synchronized binding, if I cannot find those part I will make a needle plate and a feed dog from standard ones. The only part that is easy to find is the binder it self. Thanks, Trox

Adler 120- 8a feed with the front presser foot attached

Hi Gregg, Kochs Adler used that gear drive on several old models. On old class 4 and 5. And on an older flat bed saddler machine too (it is maybe a class 3, I do not know). I guess I was wrong about the feed on the Adler 20`s, the black one has a walking foot (see the presser foot bar without a foot on, the green one also have a hole for a extra presser bar) Those Adler 20 machines are not good on leather, to big and clumsy feet’s. Trox A13.pdf

Hi Catskin, Great, I love to see a picture of that machine. My hobby is to rebuild big German machines, but mostly cylinder bed machines that I can use in my leatherwork. Here is some pictures of two Adler 20`s, that was offered me as garden decorations. They did not have the right feed (no waking foot), but they both had high lift. To much rust, and long drive made me leaving them to die. They had that special hand wheel gear you might like to have on your machine. Trox.

Hi Catskin, Your Adler 20-2 is normal lift version sewing up to 16 mm. with needle 794 u. The Adler 20 subclasses; 20-6a, A 20-7 (7a), A 20-8a has a lift on 40 mm, using the Schmetz 1000 H needle system. The successor the class 120 in now again made by a German company; SL-Spezialnaehmaschinenbau Limbach GmbH & Co. KG. On license from Dürkopp Adler, together with the famous Adler class 30 shoe repair machine. The Adler 120-30 is a real monster machine, sewing up to 26 mm thick. However, it cost more than a new Mercedes Benz. http://www.sl-spezial.de/sl/index.php/company.html Watch and enjoy. Trox

Hi Sewingtec, Thanks a lot. The parts I need are for a synchronized binder, the feed dog and needle plate for the subclass H3-17/01. Dog: # 91-045 539-4 and the plate # 91-040 701|-4. A binder foot set, a binder swing bracket and a binder for leather. I have received some tips about a company in Hong Kong and some thing on EBay that I am currently checking out. I attach the Pfaff 345 subclass partlist (Are you Thomas from sew24.blogspot.com and Dürkopp Adler?) Thanks Trox kgi582aa.pdf