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negative space All that wasted time you put into trying to see I 'got' it. I'm going to make a guitar strap for the first time after I play musical tools now, planned to have it started by now. I got a piece of leather from some different things I bought from one of our members that was a perfect checkbook size. So I decide to make me one and practice inlay at the same time. So I picked what looked like such a simple outline of a horse since Katass has been helping me on the strap and looked at a horse picture I already had and thought it would be too hard to start. Well this is a fairly easy outline except I didn't think about NEGATIVE space. I won't even show it to Mike (Katass, we could use a few different names around here :-) because I'm too embarrassed. A friend of mine's going to try and help me with a solution of inlay/overlay. Am I the only person that makes mistakes everyday, posts their mistakes, or wait, am I on the right forum, LOL. I'm kinda tired, worked on this all night. I really feel badly about the time you worked with me Mike, well and Kevin that one night on negative space. Rotaries will cut leather, suede and your thumb when you forget you're holding it as you turn your leather for another cut and bump your thumb against it. The good news is I'm sewing on my 15-91 a little better....bad news, again lack of foresight, I wanted thread that popped. After first inch I realized at my skill level I wanted thread that hid. It isn't QUITE so deformed looking up close, but bad enough. But I'll use it because it's better than the last one I made from pieces and didn't do right. But I've been using it. gonna take it apart and use those ;pieces I like so well AGAIN on something else, don't know what yet. Good news? This cost me maybe 10 cents total, leather was free, so paint, dye, resolene, thread and a thumb. Lizard a small, small piece from a bag I got from SLC that keeps growing in the dark :-) I learned a lot, much more than those projects that seem touched with magic and go right all the way. I think we should have a mistake thread for everyone to learn from. I could post everyday.......Cheryl

YES i WAS MAD BECAUSE THEY WERE ADVERTISED AS STORAGE BOXES, AND ABOUT THE ONLY THING YOU COULD STORE IN THESE (sorry 'bout caps on) might be a medium sized book. one, LOL. But I put my fid and french beveler in it to upside down and the wooden handles keep them from going down and hitting anything. Eventually I hope to have all my metal tools, like basketweave, etc. in the box with the small holes. Putting stuff in as I run across them. Buy clementines, LOL and you'll get double duty!!

I learned just because you think 40 bucks is expensive doesn't make it true. Just because you expect a tool to work doesn't make it true, or expect it to come sharp. 15 minutes ago I learned just because you're a little sour on tools at the moment doesn't mean you should run amok with your new rotary cutter after opening it. Yes it's ok to laugh manically when it says use caution, very sharp. It's ok not to believe it will cut anything. HOWEVER it wasn't so much OK when I tried to cut out suede around my checkbook asleep at the wheel and found out a rotary knife will handle suede AND leather with ease. My checkbook is going to be 2 inches square if I keep making mistakes. When life hands you lemons, forget freakin lemonaid, open a cold beer and go sit and drink it in the sun with your dog. Your first dragon you carve and tool probably shouldn't be the hardest picture you could find free on the internet. When you do inlays remember NEGATIVE SPACE dummy, not just the outline, sigh. OK, anyone else? I learned a lot this week. Cheryl

I just found out the clementine boxes (remember the display I did on one of them that was too busy?) works great for all different sized. One of my boxes has big and smaller holes so the strap end cutter went right in the larger hole, and the other box has the smaller holes which are perfect for stamps, my horse shoe, rose, oh and exacto, several things fit upright in those.

I wish I had some sharpies or SOMETHING for when I start to color mine. By the time I use paint to do this I may have to be hospitalized for a very long time, LOL. I know I picked this one and design not only because it appealed to me but to keep stretching and reaching beyond my comfort level, but I may have over-reached myself finally. Yours and JayJay's turned out really well.

Ed I appreciate you explaining that and clearing it up. You already know I want one of yours as soon as I can afford it. Not that yours are expensive; they are right in line with the other ones but I mean until I can afford any maul. And you've been so patient with me changing my mind 12 dozen times. Someday I hope to have every size you make :-) Cheryl

Hi Joe. Glad you joined us here at the forum. If you look further down you'll see a thread just for sewing machines and those guys will tell you everything you need to know. They are really expert and friendly. Cheryl

You GO girl.....that's awesome work you have there. Cheryl

That's gorgeous. My checkbook cover I'm working on needs serious help which a friend is going to do tonight. I found a horse pic online that had a pretty easy outline to cut out because I want to do another inlay for more practice. Outline, true enough but I didn't think about the negative space and my horse looks crippled at best. I was going to sand the cut marks now it's completely dry but going to wait and see exactly what my friend suggests tonight before I touch another thing

I went to the free demo of the CP, always do when I'm looking to build a website. They have a good one. I bookmarked the main page. Thanks again Sylvia. Cheryl

Oh I don't think godaddy would cost that, it's just if I kept my current site for now so I didn't have to go through transferring everything at this point that's what it would cost. But I'll check out hostmonster anyway. Thanks Sylvia. c

Up until May 8th I could have gotten a season pass for $90.00 which ran from May 12th to some time in Oct. It was a $10.00 savings. However my VOW ( just consider it work counselor) counselor suggested I wait. He knows $10.00 is a big deal to me but realizes I soon will have grant money and my business plan isn't finished yet for the grant, and also I needed to see if I was going to be able to get out of the house to go every Saturday. All good points. Well I needed to do some local market analysis so been trying to get there for 2 weeks. Missed the first Saturday and Tuesday, but went this last Tuesday in the rain, and no one was at the rain or shine farmers market :-) So went today, an absolutely beautiful day so I could finish my market analysis before Monday to send to an agency that's helping with the business plan. I had the online Market analysis, just not local. Well found out some great things, and three people readily talked to me about what they're prices ran and knew what I was doing so 4th person was guy who runs the farmers market. They don't have any openings left. I can send in an application (for TWENTY-FIVE BUCKS) to go on the list of people who get called if a regular doesn't show up. Which is absolutely one way it would never work for me. Because of my panic disorder the only way for me to add some place to my 'safe' places is through repetition. If I went one Saturday, and didn't have a spot for two Saturdays, then got called the next Saturday it would be like me starting all over as far as the panic. However from Oct. to May they have it indoors and less people set up so I'm looking to getting a winter season pass now and I know this happened for a reason. I wasn't even thinking about starting until some time in June because of products I'm working on, and paperwork I'm still doing for the grant. My VOW counselor is willing to take me on local sales calls to places I've been scouting out like boutiques and gift shops for my jewelry, and local barns for the rhythm beads. I'm going to take the money I'd spend (15 bucks a Saturday) and make my website fully functional for 19.99 a month. It was free for the first year which isn't up yet, but you only get three pages and no way to sell from it. If you want even 1 more page it jumps to $19.99 a month but that's cheaper than the farmers market, and will allow me to have a 'store' on there plus a lot more pages. and make up tons of product. I like doing website stuff, may switch to go daddy now so I can use my Office Front Page which I know so well, and even if it doesn't have FP extensions for uploading anymore, I have, can't think of the name, but a program that is made to upload website pages, changes, etc. OH FTP, LOL, I have that program in 'lite'. So look out world, I'm still coming after you. Also wanted to say if anyone needs website help I'll be happy to help anyway I can because everyone has used their skills to help me so much. Cheryl

When my SLC order came today and I saw my strap end punch was ALSO a Tandy, I got a little sick. But it doesn't take the same amount of force for these and after I stropped it, I can practically push it through with my hand, although I am using a 1x3 I had up here in the house as a maul :-) Man I love it when things work like they are supposed to. So I guess this one I can keep. It got an edge on it from me stropping inside and out so shiny it could blinf you in bright sunlight. OK, for the 50th time off to call Bruce about a vintage oblong punch.

Sorry Art, I should have known that. I'll see if Bruce has one for the first of the month. I have a nice person who read this and is sending me a mallet to borrow for a few months. I just got my strap end punch from SLC, and again went a few bucks cheaper and it's GUESS what.....? Tandy. But since it won't need the brute force the oblong takes, and also can be sharpened easier, I'm going to try it on a belt I'm starting. If it doesn't work the first time, will strop it and try again before I send it back. Know I have some wood up here in the apartment already I can whack it with. If I send it back, I'll get one from Bruce too. I like vintage everything, all my household things from furniture are vintage or antique. Also if Bruce doesn't have the oblong, I think SLC has Osborne and I'll ask them what number it is before I order it. Thanks for giving me the guts to say, 'it's not me, it's the lousy tool, send it back.' Cheryl

Wow all cool stuff. Didn't get to see the pyro but Luke your handle is cool, and I'm on my way with Mike and I'll even bring a few beers. Aaron that is so cool that you're teaching at TLF. I don't do anything worth teaching YET and don't have a TLF here but have offered to do a very basic class at the local MH facility across the street using some kind of Tandy kits for the people that sign up. Everyone had good days as did I. Always it seems like when leather is involved! Cheryl Chief I'm sorry I just got up and forgot your beautiful wallet. I started a checkbook cover before I went to sleep, and I am on disability so I know what you mean when you forget to take any days off, they do start running together.

Thanks guys, I am sending the punch back, have been in touch with seller who asked if I took the plastic off the outside of the head OK I'm an idiot, but I didn't even have to, it was INSIDE the punch itself instead of protecting the head as it should. So I'm taking everyone's advice....Send it back, get a good punch and make myself a wooden maul for now. I have plenty of wood available from my favorite store, my landlord's things in the basement. He always has tons of things he has left over from doing repairs here. And I have a saw and sander and I'll make a wooden deadblow type of thing for now. As it is now I have to sell the guitar strap for a bazillion dollars just to recoup and still don't have any good tools. Art I'm sorry, I am an idiot about somethings, who is CSO or is that their actual name? I don't mind sharpening it if it's going to do the job afterward. Sylvia even download a video on here from youtube that shows how to use the whetstone right. Thanks all of you, Cheryl

Wow I just woke up and what a wealth of info. I'm going to have to read this all again. Although Sylvia is right, I'd use an AS right now if I could afford it. I had already contacted Bearman before I went to sleep and asked about his mauls because I wanted one of his awls and asked if I could change that to a maul. I haven't checked my messages yet so need to do that to make a decision. Now I have to decide what SIZE because I need something that will do oblong punches, and strap end and could use my silly Tandy wood mallet for the little amount of tooling I have a chance to do these days compared to the other things I do. I'm going to probably write Sylvia since I'm still 1/2 asleep from being up so long yesterday before I laid down to let her just tell me what I need, LOL. GREAT info. Cheryl

LOL, eating now, then sleep. Have beer but think I'll pass right now :-)

God Syl did he say that? I need some sleep, a beer, or maybe a BLT, just not sure what's wrong......

Thanks Spinner, but what is his maul heads made of? Cheryl

Done, and he accepts returns so I just have to pay to ship it back. Less than the tool and a lot less than dealing with it. Thanks again Art. Cheryl

OMG I wish I had said all that. I DIDN'T buy it from Tandy, I bought it on eBay and it was a Tandy when it came. But I can return it. POS, POS, I wanted to say that so bad. Thanks Art, will contact seller right now. (Seriously $40.00 for one tool I thought meant it WAS good :-(

C'mon guys chime in because I want to know too. A conversation here last night made me realize I was sadly lacking. Thanks, Cheryl

Wow, I wouldn't have thought any of that, thanks. cheryl

Hi Ed, could you tell me what a rosewood awl would be, and would it be possible to get it with the blade already in it, like the one you have that looks like it might actually go through leather and I could sew? Thanks, Cheryl