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nice!!!

what kind of prices are we talking about?

funny!!!!!

LOL....BRAIN?

well if you want to braid with the best leather it has to be kangaroo....if you want to learn on the more inexpensive side then paracord. cores used will depend on the size of the leash and the dog its being used on. also with paracord if you braid more than 6 strands you need a core or the braid comes out square.

i think what you guys are seeing is that the headstall is laid out for a pretty picture...so therefore they placed it finished side up but really if you look at the straight piece that is down the middle of the headstall you can clearly see that is the flesh side. slightly different color and no shiny finish on it.......that piece is set on edge to show the double edge of the braid. if you look at some of the braiding from south america they use the trenza patria alot and it can be seen in many widths....more and/or wider strings for wider braids.

it looks just like the front, only when using leather or rawhide it is the flesh side on the back. in that picture of the no ear headstall you can just see the back of the braid in the long piece that is shown going down the middle of the headstall. i have pictures for a tutorial, i will try to get it up this evening sometime.

did that work for you? i took some pics of the bg method and can post a short tutorial if you needed it.

do you have bruce grants encyclopedia? i think his instructions are easier to follow...pg 145 and also pg 147

yes....see how you get the double thickness on the edge? you can mess around with the actual braiding pattern as long as you alternate the o/u u/o on each side. this is how this braid can be used for so much strap work in horse gear...the edge is much firmer and the braid less likely to roll up because of it (IMHO)

d'oh.....lol i was beginning to think it was me, that i was looking at it wrong or something. i do like the look of the flat braid you did...ill have to mess around with it and see if it will work for some stuff im working on.

and on the next pass you did ...left side under / over and right side over/under? when i look at your braid i dont see the alternating pattern that one usually gets with a patria...usually you get 'v's running sideways on the braid instead of the length of the braid like a traditional flat braid. just like the round guacho braid...the v's run the circumference instead of the length....i braided a few leashes using a combination of the two braids and they go perfect together because of that.

i think its wrong....but kinda hard to tell....did you do alternating of the over and under? what i mean is the pattern goes something like left side-0/u right side u/o left-u/o right-o/u.....make sense?

the trenzas in the photos arent finished on both sides...the double edge structure of the trenza braid keeps the braid nice and flat and neat looking. .if you want both sides finished you would have to do something like the braid brian showed, or work out a round braid that you could flatten....or i have seen round braids over thin leather straps as a core gives your braid a flat look.

when i do the knots right on something i try to do them tight and then just check the tension when done....but then if im putting knots on a leash or something ill tie the pineapple knot around my finger and then put it on and tighten it....because i use a lacing needle i have to be careful about tension or the needle can damage the lace. ill try and take pictures but the last few have been so bad i wont post them...

that is amazing....its so beautiful that if i won it id be afraid to use it....probably put it in a glass case....

that link is for the trenza patria crocodile ridge combo braid from bruce grants book page 265. i am kinda busy right now but i will try and get some pics taken in the next few days and post a tutorial....i will include the joint area were you turn the two rounds into one patria and how to go from single round to flat....

the braid on page 260 is the trenza...it takes a bit of practice...the main thing is to make sure you alternate over/under on each side. i dont see that in your pictures...perhaps if i get the time i will try to post a short tutorial...i hate when people are unwilling to help and share....

well i googled it and found a reference and picture...just looks like a long gaucho knot to me...

i dont know...that sure dont look like a hand made saddle...

here is a link for plans posted on here couple years ago for nice little wooden splitter... http://leatherworker.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=787&st=0&p=28154&hl="splitter"&fromsearch=1entry28154

wow so lifelike....

they look real good...lace looks good nothing needs changing far as i can tell....and like nod4eight said already if they are for you then make them any color combo you like...