Recommend a permanent low sheen sealer

[chiefjason]

On 12/8/2023 at 5:41 PM, jasonsmith said:

I didn't "change" my criteria after Mop and Glo was mentioned. I've only used sealer bought from a leather shop and wasn't aware of people using floor cleaner to seal leather. I only "clarified" my criteria after being suggested to use floor cleaner. 

I've not "refused" to believe anyone. People can have positive or negative experiences, it doesn't change the fact that I have no interest in experimenting, especially when we are talking about sealing $40 worth of leather and dye. Others can experiment.

Mop and Glo can share a similar substance with another product, but that doesn't automatically mean that they can be substituted for each other. I see Mop and Glo has fragrances and other things added to it. I'd call that contamination for purposes of sealing leather. At the end of the day, is it enough to matter? Well that's for others to figure out.

The question is, if someone gave you a free bucket of Resoline or Eco-Flo Satin Sheen, etc. would you be willing to clean your floor with it? Yes or no? Why don't you give it a try and let us know how it turns out? Buy a bottle and dump it in the middle of the floor and clean it and let us know how it turns out? This argument goes both ways. Make sure to take pictures.

We've done the experimentation for you.  Proved it works fine.  Are willing to tell you exactly what we do.  Yet here were are.  You are stuck in the mud with your position.

At this point it's just the most exciting thing going around here right now.  lol. So I'll play along until I get too busy to bother.  

$40?  Since money seems to be a thing with you I dipped $800 worth of holsters the other day prepping them to ship for Christmas.  Absolute non issue again.  Shocking I know.  

I don't use Mop and Glo on my floors silly, so I would not use Resolen either.  M&G is for holsters at my house.  

FYI, I hate resolene anyway.  Because of all the things you listed that you DID NOT WANT in a leather sealer.  I use M&G because it's all the things I do want in a leather sealer.  And all the things you want as well, minus that one hang up that you can't see your way around.  I've had resolene crack when applied full strength a number of times.  And it looks like I spray painted my leather with clear coat.  Yuk.  

This is what it looks like on leather.  Dipped twice.  Buffed with Atom wax.  The dipping is part of my love of M&G too.  I can buy it by the case for slightly more than 32 oz of resolene.  I get 6 times as much.  So I can dip my holsters instead of brush the finish on.  

 

[jasonsmith]

2 minutes ago, chiefjason said:

We've done the experimentation for you.  Proved it works fine.  Are willing to tell you exactly what we do.  Yet here were are.  You are stuck in the mud with your position.

At this point it's just the most exciting thing going around here right now.  lol. So I'll play along until I get too busy to bother.  

$40?  Since money seems to be a thing with you I dipped $800 worth of holsters the other day prepping them to ship for Christmas.  Absolute non issue again.  Shocking I know.  

I don't use Mop and Glo on my floors silly, so I would not use Resolen either.  M&G is for holsters at my house.  

FYI, I hate resolene anyway.  Because of all the things you listed that you DID NOT WANT in a leather sealer.  I use M&G because it's all the things I do want in a leather sealer.  And all the things you want as well, minus that one hang up that you can't see your way around.  I've had resolene crack when applied full strength a number of times.  And it looks like I spray painted my leather with clear coat.  Yuk.  

This is what it looks like on leather.  Dipped twice.  Buffed with Atom wax.  The dipping is part of my love of M&G too.  I can buy it by the case for slightly more than 32 oz of resolene.  I get 6 times as much.  So I can dip my holsters instead of brush the finish on.  

 

I'm not using Mop and Glo just like how you don't use Resolene. It's a choice I made and a choice you have made. I don't care what you say about Mop and Glo, I'M CHOOSING NOT TO USE IT. I'm only sticking with sealers that are traditional leather sealers, you don't have to agree with it. Also, a little bottle of leather sealer goes a long way. I only spread a thin layer on top of the leather. 

[jasonsmith]

I think I'll do a test where I mix Eco Flo Satin sheen 50/50 with distilled water like what people do with Resolene and see what that does. I've used Eco Flo Satin Sheen 100% in the past with good results, but had wanted to try some other things when I ordered more dye. Which I went ahead and ordered more dye.

[Wepster]

Is this the correct product (there seems to be a couple variants, and some discussion about some versions have been discontinued)?

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Mop-Glo-Multi-Surface-Floor-Cleaner-32oz-Shines-Protects-Floors/31953097?fulfillmentIntent=In-store&athbdg=L1200&from=/search

[fredk]

Why is everyone, or nearly everyone, harping on about 'Mop & Glo'.  I use it a lot BUT the chap says he doesn't want to use it and wont use it.  Can we not try to compare other sealers that ARE available in the leather shop for him to try?

[SUP]

@fredk I suspect some of the people here are truly perplexed about his stubbornness in the face of so many good experiences and proof with M&G and his refusal to even consider it while others  just enjoy needling him a bit. 

 

 

 

[bladegrinder]

Ok, I’m going to bite, I’m getting low on resolene so next weekend when I go to town I’m going to get some mop and glow. So is there more then just one kind of this stuff or is there different mixes? Also, I’m kind of hooked on using an airbrush so I assume this stuff will flow thru an airbrush ok? And, what’s the standard mix? 50/50 with water? Once I get this wonder juice I’ll try it out and post back here. Might be a couple weeks. Worse comes to worse, I’m only out a few bucks and a little time.

[jasonsmith]

1 hour ago, SUP said:

@fredk I suspect some of the people here are truly perplexed about his stubbornness in the face of so many good experiences and proof with M&G and his refusal to even consider it while others  just enjoy needling him a bit. 

 

 

 

Well, technically, aren't I already using Mop and Glo by some other's logic? I already have a new bottle of Eco Flo Satin Sheen, same as I used last time, which some say is just rebranded Mop and Glo. So, haven't I been using Mop and Glo the entire time then? I do plan to do a test where I cut Eco Flo Satin Sheen with 50/50 distilled and see what that does. Though I usually see people recommending the cutting with Resolene.

[jasonsmith]

I'm thinking of getting a 3oz empty flip top bottle from Walmart. And use a syringe to remove 1oz of Eco Flo Satin Sheen and inject it into the empty bottle along with 1oz of distilled water. Shake it and run some tests to compared to Eco Flo Satin Sheet full strength.

I may also buy a bottle of Angelus Matte Finisher and try out a 50/50 distilled water mix with that too.

Has anyone done a 50/50 distilled water mix with Eco Flo Satin Sheen or Angelus Matte Finisher?

I assume it wouldn't be any different than when people do a 50/50 mix of Resolene and water?

[jasonsmith]

I was searching around the forum and saw someone mention a company called Alpha 6.

They sell a few different types of sealers that are "matte". I'll probably contact them to figure out what the differences are between their different matte topcoats and may order one to try. If it is a true "matte" and not kind of glossy like Angelus Matte Finisher.

AlphaKrylik Matte Topcoat 8oz ⋆ Alpha 6 Corporation

AlphaFlex Matte Topcoat 8oz ⋆ Alpha 6 Corporation