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A bit off topic because it doesn't sew leather.  But we are looking at a JUKI MO-358 sub class 8 serger. It calls for defrix num.2 oil  in the JUKI manual.  What would be the equal to that oil?       And if anybody has an estimate of what it should be worth.

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I have some of the juki oil, and purchased it. I have heard seems like a million people say just use Lilly white, but to steer correct it may be a good call to one of the pro shop guys here in participating helping answer and selling machines.

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I've bought 35 or so new Jukis is the last few years. I spoke to Juki about oil and Lilly white is fine and won't void any warranties. I use it in all of my machines. 

Regards, Eric 

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I just looked up the MSDS for Lilly White oil. It consists of two mineral oils, but what is really interesting is that it's an ISO 22 oil - in other words it's hydraulic oil.

Just thought you'd like to know :).

Machines wot I have - Singer 51W59; Singer 331K4; Seiko STH-8BLD; Pfaff 335; CB4500.

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1 hour ago, dikman said:

I just looked up the MSDS for Lilly White oil. It consists of two mineral oils, but what is really interesting is that it's an ISO 22 oil - in other words it's hydraulic oil.

Just thought you'd like to know :).

Interesting find, but I would point out for any beginners that if tempted to use hydraulic oil that the red stuff could be disastrous with any leaking down onto the leather. I have often been worried after a good oiling, about the transfer onto the products being made and I can say that the Singer sewing oil has always dried without leaving any sign. I have no idea if it"s possible to get any readily available non coloured hydraulic oil. Best Regards Brian.

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Lilly white is used for its ease of cleaning with dry cleaning solvents that we use in factories to remove oil spots from fabric. It's also non-detergent so it doesn't foam in a splash type oil system. I also use it to lube air cylinders in atomizing type oilers. As for the leather we use in our luggage factory, it is dyed and finished before we sew it and the oil is simply wiped off for cleaning. Many garments purchased at the retail level have had oil spots removed at the factory. Juki has come out with "oill- less" heads in recent years. They will not have the life expectancy of older machines using oil.

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Would Lily white be the same as the regular sewing machine oil that Bob Kovar sent for my Cowboy 4500?

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26 minutes ago, catskin said:

Would Lily white be the same as the regular sewing machine oil that Bob Kovar sent for my Cowboy 4500?

I assume it is, though I don't know what Bob sells. It's pretty much been the industry standard sewing machine oil for a very long time.

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52 minutes ago, catskin said:

Would Lily white be the same as the regular sewing machine oil that Bob Kovar sent for my Cowboy 4500?

Yes, it is the same oil. I use his oil in all of my numerous sewing machines.

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My current crop of sewing machines:

Cowboy CB4500, Singer 107w3, Singer 139w109, Singer 168G101, Singer 29k71, Singer 31-15, Singer 111w103, Singer 211G156, Adler 30-7 on power stand, Techsew 2700, Fortuna power skiver and a Pfaff 4 thread 2 needle serger.

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Thank you all for the help!!!

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