Members chrisash Posted August 2, 2018 Members Report Posted August 2, 2018 just looking up PFAFF needles size 134 Check online and it states the needles are the same as PFAFF 134 797 135x5 135x7 DPX5 135x Are these really the same common needle and if so why so many different descriptions Quote Mi omputer is ot ood at speeling , it's not me
Members DrmCa Posted August 2, 2018 Members Report Posted August 2, 2018 dunno about 797, never came across those, but the rest is the same needle. This is the standard needle for Pfaff walking foot machines. Why? Hell knows! Quote Machines: Mitsubishi DB-130 single needle, Kansai Special RX-9803/UTC coverstitch, Union Special 56300F chainstitch, Pfaff 335-17 cylinder arm walking foot, Bonis Type A fur machine, Huji 43-6 patcher, Singer 99 hand cranked, Juki DDL-553 single needle (for sale)
Moderator Wizcrafts Posted August 2, 2018 Moderator Report Posted August 2, 2018 Different manufacturers used to assign their own system codes to needles when they produced those lines, many of which were based on early Adler, Pfaff and Singer needles. European needle makers called their needles by different codes than American/Canadian makers. There is a gap between SAE/ISO and Metric measurements, so needles made to different measurement systems get different names, even though the geometry may end up the same. Quote Posted IMHO, by Wiz My current crop of sewing machines: Cowboy CB4500, Singer 107w3, Singer 139w109, Singer 168G101, Singer 29k71, Singer 31-15, Singer 111w103, Singer 211G156, Adler 30-7 on power stand, Techsew 2700, Fortuna power skiver and a Pfaff 4 thread 2 needle serger.
Members brmax Posted August 3, 2018 Members Report Posted August 3, 2018 No there not all the same, and its truthfully surprising how these have been made different. In some ways a needle may be ground in machining to have a difference in its point, thread eyelet, the scarf area and upwards. Possibly marketing and manufacturing to peform better for a specfic task and in a machine of some brand or other. I think we see some of this in different point angles and for sure taller thread eyelets or holes. Good day Floyd Quote
Members Constabulary Posted August 3, 2018 Members Report Posted August 3, 2018 (edited) The needles are the same - you may find minor differences among different manufacturers but they all have the same length from top of shank to top of needles eye (as said before - with minor differences) - meaning they are interchangeable. Shank diameter is ~2mmm, length from top of shank to top of needle eye is ~33,9mm Other names for this needle is: DPx134, SY 1995 or even CANU 20:05 1 EDIT: Edited August 3, 2018 by Constabulary Quote ~ Keep "OLD CAST IRON" alive - it´s worth it ~ Machines in use: - Singer 111G156 - Singer 307G2 - Singer 29K71 - Singer 212G141 - Singer 45D91 - Singer 132K6 - Singer 108W20 - Singer 51WSV2 - Singer 143W2
Members chrisash Posted August 3, 2018 Author Members Report Posted August 3, 2018 Thanks guys most enlightening, I guess the marketing folk thought that having a different name would make customers only go to them to buy needles rather than a generic needle, Further question does the needle thickness get thinner (not shank) if the size goes down from say 130 to 90 Quote Mi omputer is ot ood at speeling , it's not me
Members dikman Posted August 3, 2018 Members Report Posted August 3, 2018 Yes. Now that you understand all about needles it's time to get stuck into thread sizing! Quote Machines wot I have - Singer 51W59; Singer 331K4; Seiko STH-8BLD; Pfaff 335; CB4500. Chinese shoe patcher; Singer 201K (old hand crank)
CowboyBob Posted August 3, 2018 Report Posted August 3, 2018 Yes,smaller # is a smaller needle.Here's a needle & thread chart that will help you to know what size needle to nbuy for your thread size.Yes smaller # is a smaller needle. https://www.tolindsewmach.com/thread-chart.html Quote Bob Kovar Toledo Industrial Sewing Machine Sales Ltd. 3631 Marine Rd Toledo,Ohio 43609 1-866-362-7397
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