Is Facebook now Vegan????

[RockyAussie]

Never been much for facebook stuff myself but in this digital marketplace world I been giving it a go.

Tried linking the web page to the facebook market place and got some rejected. Several try's later still have rejections.

Got I response from them said : Our internal team has reviewed the products and it will remain rejected
>> because Posts that involve sale/lease/trade/adoption/auction of
>> animals/products derived from animals are prohibited on Facebook. Sale of
>> animals draws a lot of negative user sentiment also there are legal
>> regulations around the sale of animals/endangered species around the world

Following he provided a link which shows the prohibited content - https://www.facebook.com/policies/commerce/prohibited_content/animals#

As you can see at the bottom it states

Any part, pelt or skin from an animal, including fur 

Therefore I can only reason that any thing made from leather is now prohibited !!!

No leather shoes, belts, wallets or handbags?

No bone or horn products?

 

It seems that perhaps a .1% of the population is going to tell the other 99.9% how we are now to behave and sell our products.

 

That may sound emotive BUT .... I have seen some terrible activities carried on by some vegan extremists here in Australia lately and the doors this opens for them is DEVASTATING. Why????  I did a bit of searching on line to see how some of the notable companies are handling this and found that

they are mostly not mentioning words like skin, hide, leather and fur in what shows up on their Facebook Shop section at first glance. This means a new norm then

is to use deceptive practices to fool Facebook and market their products. Deceptive practices in how a product is advertised within Australia is against Australian law.

If a person (perhaps a vegan) complains to Facebook that the company is selling leather goods by doing that, then that company would be expected to be banned from Facebook. This.. if accomplished would give plenty of interest to every day media in a negative way to the deceptive marketing practices of the companies involved.

It would be surprising if some extremist parties were not to collectively spend days trolling looking for any company they can damage and get removed.

Although I do not use Etsy I did check out their guidelines on this area and thankfully it is a whole lot clearer. https://www.etsy.com/legal/prohibited/

Facebook has the right to ban what they like on their platform and that is fine but I hope that they reconsider their position as I have to ask, what comes next?????

No Meat? No eggs? No .........?????????????????

 

 

Edited May 3, 2019 by RockyAussie
Wrong word

[BattleAx]

Facebook is a horrible company. I deleted my account over a year ago.. Etsy is ok they have many fees but you can put a link to your website on the platform. 

[mikesc]

I agree with BattleAx , facebook are an appalling company, they have allowed everything including beheadings and terrorism, and streaming of suicides, murders and rapes in the past, and now because they are suffering backlash over their awful record on privacy and selling of anyone's private data to anyone, and legal problems with various governments, they are attempting to "save face" with jumping on various "millennial" bandwagons.

The way they run their system anyway, you'd get very little "reach" unless you pay for it, and given that they are a bot infested platform with only around 20% at absolute max of their claimed membership being real live non marketroid humans..You'd not get much exposure anyway..even if you were "allowed"..They will wither and die eventually, and many of us will celebrate the day..

Meanwhile ..if you haven't already set up on pinterest ( much as I hate their crowd sourced image theft ) you'll get more traffic from them, not so much as "click throughs" but if you watermark your images, you'll get "repins" and people coming to your site from there..Same applies to instagram..( IDK if they, instagram, have a leather ban ) , but pinterest definitely do not. There are other platforms, many are opening up out of China, but ...

[Tugadude]

Rocky, this is a sign of the times.  Just wait, it will get worse, much worse.  Extremes aren't good on either side of an equation.  What you are seeing is what happens when some extremists get their way.  There are far more people who use leather, love real leather and want it for their bags, wallets and shoes compared to practicing vegans.  

I went to a friend's wedding recently and was surprised to see several ladies, not all older, wearing fox and mink stoles.  I hadn't seen that in a while.  I wonder how many there had a problem with it?  Nobody seemed to.  I suspect in another 20 years the same ladies will be read the riot act and barred from entry because they might offend other guests.

I will stop now before I get too worked up.  Your topic is a good one.  What happens if Etsy follows suit?  Craigslist?  The local newspaper?  

[ABHandmade]

This madness is beginning to take catastrophic proportions. Now, logically, Facebook should ban the pages of restaurants, shops, etc. - after all, there, oh horror, sell the cooked animal parts.

[mikesc]

I always wonder how many of these people get their hair done , or their hipster beards shaved / shaped by people who use a leather strop..Plus, given that ( with only a very small number of exceptions, most of which is illegal, and IMO rightly so .. in order to protect species ) the leather hides and skins that we use are from animals that have been killed for meat.."leather" is a"by-product" of the worldwide meant industries ( multinational and artisanal ) what would they say if the skins were thrown away..

Ecologically at least we are not wasting resources, and the plastic alternatives ( even so called "bio-plastic" ) are very polluting to manufacture so far, with the possible exception of work being done on fungi, which is still in it's early stages for potential uses as "bio-leather"..

What about wool and wool products, ( farming of sheep and goats ) facebook going to ban them?

Will they ban McDo..Pizza hut, Kentucky Fried..

Nike..who have some leather models in their vastly overpriced shoes made by kids in 3rd world countries for adults in the "west"...

Edited May 3, 2019 by mikesc

[bullmoosepaddles]

I am going to go ahead and say this. For years I have wondered what happens when the next generation starts a war for plant rights? We will all starve. But in their defense it will end the overall problem. 

[noobleather]

Hahhahaha Facebook

Never been on it never will.

[mikesc]

Unfortunately had to create a page in the business name there years ago, just to prevent someone else creating one using our business name ( yes facebook don't do anything to prevent someone else doing that, unless your business is called BMW or Ford or something equally huge and not to be messed with ) ..never used it since, just log on from another computer, have many ( that gets wiped immediately after ) to keep the account "valid", never published anything there at all, never even created a page there, follow no-one ..

But doesn't stop Marky's minions telling / lieing to me ( when I do "log in" ) that I have "hundreds of followers", and that I could get even more if I paid for some ads or some additional exposure ..

Zuck and co wouldn't know an "ethic" if it jumped up and bit them in the neck..

what happens when the next generation starts a war for plant rights?

Put the following search string into Google..
movement for the rights of plants

Read some of the results..it is already a "thing".. :(

Edited May 3, 2019 by mikesc

[kgg]

It is the sign of the times, the more outlandish the view/action I think the more people are afraid of saying something just in case it may offend someone  or even worse themselves be targeted. The 1%er's use to be the not so friendly biker clubs and other outcasts of society now it's the socially inept bubble wrapped snowflakes. When people wake up and realize that their facey book "friends" will eat them alive in a heartbeat things my change back to some form of normality. Just wait and see what happens when the smart home assistants get really refined and become as normal as today's cell phone.

kgg