Use of Fur Banned

[fredk]

Peeps, have you seen this story?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-50030291

In case you cannot access the story to read it ~ California has now banned the use and sale of fur products, effective from 2023. 

That may seem a long way off but its only a few years. Its the slippery slope, where Cali leads others, especially N.I., follow quickly

Exotic furs and bear furs I get, but where does that leave deer, rabbit, squirrel and even sheep fleece?

[MikeRock]

Sad.  I grew up trapping mink and muskrats, fox and coons.  

The news report on some channel said that they would allow animal skins/furs, like goat, and cow, that were a byproduct of meat or milk production. 

Sucks.

[Hardrada]

California sux. I'm so glad I don't live there (not that I could stand the ugly broiling weather anyway...).

[Frodo]

The Government of Commiefornia has no right to ban the sale of any damn thing.

It is up to an individual to make the decision on what to buy,  not the government

 

edited

+what about the Indian tribes? not allowed to make deer skin moccasins? 

does this mean if you kill an elk for food.  you have to let the hide rot away wastefully? 

Edited October 13, 2019 by Frodo

[chrisash]

Morally is wrong to trap just for fur as the main goal, and morally its right to kill for food as the main purpose

The real question is how you draw the line between the two things, if the main aim is food then most would agree its fine, if you make your living selling the fur then its questionable

Unfortunately there is no clear answer

[Handstitched]

That will never happen here in Oz  .  So many industries that rely on meat  & its bi-products  would go under , causing so many job losses and so on. 

If its just for the pelts, then I can understand  the ban.  

However, on the flip side  of that comment ,  here we have foxes, introduced, that go after the rabbits, introduced, cane toads, introduced.You can't eat Cane Toads( well, some  brave souls have tried... yuk ) , so the skins are made into leather goods. 

Does California have any introduced pests like we have ? If so, what happens to them ? 

HS 

Edited October 15, 2019 by Handstitched

[Sheilajeanne]

Australia got the gold medal when it came to introduced species, because your flora and fauna is so very unique that it can't cope with foreign species. 

About the only introduced species in California that craft people might be interested in, other than some snakes and reptiles, is the nutria, a critter similar to the muskrat. I would imagine the ban does NOT apply to introduced species!

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_invasive_species_in_California

[LatigoAmigo]

On 10/13/2019 at 2:04 AM, Frodo said:

+what about the Indian tribes? not allowed to make deer skin moccasins? 

does this mean if you kill an elk for food.  you have to let the hide rot away wastefully? 

The only information I've gotten has come from the news, but I understand that there are some exemptions. This came from Reuters: "Second-hand fur products are exempt from the ban, as are fur products used by Native American tribes for spiritual or cultural purposes. The ban does not include leather products or taxidermy."   (My emphasis).

[Hardrada]

6 hours ago, Handstitched said:

Does California have any introduced pests like we have ? If so, what happens to them ? 

Plenty. They end up in government.

[Sheilajeanne]

2 hours ago, Hardrada said:

Plenty. They end up in government.