Cobra vs Cowboy

[nylonRigging]

4 hours ago, RemingtonSteel said:

JJN,  I think I needed to also expand my search radius. When I did that, it came up in the listing.  But thanks for the other tips as they will be helpful for future searches. 

Made the offer, now I just need to wait on the seller to get back to me on whether or not he accepts it.

UPDATE:  He just got back to me and accepted the offer.  I think it is fair for both parties involved.

Cool you got the bigboy 16" arm . you will like it . I got a 16" longarm flatbed single needle and all that extra room is nice sometimes .

Just a HeadsUp .. You got to carry it up any stairs when you get home  ?? ...LOL . . That Pro2000 16" head , is going to a lot heavier than you think when you put your back into it to pick it up and carry to your truck .

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[dikman]

My recent research into buying a 441 from China indicates the head could be around 70-80 kgs so at least 150 lbs. Again, from what I can find out the head castings are probably all the same with the difference being how they are finished off by the individual factory and fitted out. Theoretically all the parts should be interchangeable (one seller actually advertises that Juki 441 parts will fit their machine) - but I wouldn't like to guarantee it!

As for a servo, there are many available, it all depends how much you want to spend or if you want a particular type/brand.

Exciting times ahead!

[Bert51]

When I pick up a new to me machine, I put the head in the car, normally behind the drivers seat wrapped in an old sheet on the floor, (if it has a sump I drain the oil and sit it back in the sump). Then I remove everything on the top of the table and remove it from the legs, leaving the motor and other bits in place, turn it upside down and place it on a old blanket in the back, undo the legs if I can and put them with the upside down table.

Bert.

[MikeRock]

Be double damned sure you restrain the head securely if on the front seat.....  seat belts and maybe even a ratchet strap around the seat back.  One emergency stomp on the brakes and the head could be junk.....

Been there and it hurt.  It was an expensive butchers scale.....  was...

[Bert51]

She who must be obeyed sometimes would not let me buy any more machines, if she had to sit in the back.

Bert.

Edited November 20, 2019 by Bert51

[dikman]

Simple solution Bert - leave her home when you buy a machine.

[Bert51]

Sadly, I need a little help with the driving. My days of driving 1200 k's and only stopping for fuel and drink are well and truly over.

Used to drive from Ceduna to Norseman over night, once a pond a time.

Bert.

[RemingtonSteel]

16 hours ago, JJN said:

Make sure they find all the feet, needle plates and bobbins that they have. I think I may see the instruction manuals in the photo. Order some fresh lily white sewing machine oil. I think you scored a very nice machine. I hope it turns out to be as good as it seems when you inspect it in person.

I did ask the seller about other accessories and he said that it did have additional feet and some other items, but he was not able to verify what they all were at the time. I am hoping one of them is a roller edge guide as well.  Correct, there is what looks to be a "Operations & Parts" manual behind the head as well as other documentation below the table top in a red folder. I don't want to get my hope up too high, but I have to admit that I feel like a kid the night before Christmas and it is just not going to come soon enough.

14 hours ago, nylonRigging said:

Cool you got the bigboy 16" arm . you will like it . I got a 16" longarm flatbed single needle and all that extra room is nice sometimes .

Just a HeadsUp .. You got to carry it up any stairs when you get home  ?? ...LOL . . That Pro2000 16" head , is going to a lot heavier than you think when you put your back into it to pick it up and carry to your truck .

Yes very excited about the 16" arm.  I was only going to be able to afford a 9" arm if I purchased new.  3 steps from garage to first floor.  I used to build house, so I have never been adverse to lifting heavy objects.  Now that I am getting just a little bit older, maybe a hand truck or furniture dolly is in order.

13 hours ago, MikeRock said:

Be double damned sure you restrain the head securely if on the front seat.....  seat belts and maybe even a ratchet strap around the seat back.  One emergency stomp on the brakes and the head could be junk.....  Been there and it hurt.  It was an expensive butchers scale.....  was...

On the floor in the back seat all the way!

14 hours ago, Bert51 said:

When I pick up a new to me machine, I put the head in the car, normally behind the drivers seat wrapped in an old sheet on the floor, (if it has a sump I drain the oil and sit it back in the sump). Then I remove everything on the top of the table and remove it from the legs, leaving the motor and other bits in place, turn it upside down and place it on a old blanket in the back, undo the legs if I can and put them with the upside down table.

If the arm reach is stated at 16 1/2 inches, I would have to imagine that that the overall length would be about 24 inches.  What about this idea:  I get a heavy duty storage container, and set the head in the container on it base with some support under the arm to keep it from tipping forward. Then pack heavy duty bubble wrap (or something similar) between the container and the front side and between the container and the back side of the head... kind of sandwich it in? May be overthinking this, but I don't want to turn a good deal into a bad deal by have to replace parts that were damaged in transport.  Also have several moving blankets to use as well.

14 hours ago, dikman said:

Exciting times ahead!

Definitely!

Going from hand stitching to machine stitching... now I just have to figure out what thread type to use, what thread size to use, what needle type to use, what needle size to use, and myriad of other new factors that will come into play with machine stitching. Oh and did I mention I have to learning how to use the machine. Fortunately, I am good with computers, machinery, and tools and have this wonderful site to reference.  

FYI, most of my hand stitching is done with 1.0 mm Ritza Tiger thread and John James harness needles on a hundred plus year old stitching horse I found at an antique store. 

[Bert51]

My Adler 105 traveled nearly 1000 k's home wrapped up behind my seat and arrived home safe and sound, wish my back was as good. Packed tight in the tub, it should travel well home.

Bert.

[shoepatcher]

I always recommend taking the head off the table when transporting a machine.  Too many things can happened and almost all of them are bad.   I have purchased and move a few machines in my 40 plus years doing this.

glenn