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Are Zig-Zag machines exceptionally hard to find?

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I picked up several compound feed straight stitch machines easily from Craigslist here in Ohio but I've been looking for a year for a zig-zag machine and haven't seen a single one come up for sale at all. Are zig-zag machines exceptionally rare or do they tend to trade hands via some other method than Craigslist?

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The Craiglist here, 'industrial zigzags' and combo zigzag/straight-stitch . There been a few of them in this area popup steady . Industrial zigzags, They definitely not as prevalent as straight-stitch industrial. My area here I guesstimate it about 2% out of a hundred straight-stitch machines for sale are zigzag . Never seeing any in your AO is a little weird .
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Yes, they are exceptionally hard to find, especially used.

Compound feed plus zig-zag is also exceptionally tricky from an engineering standpoint.

Most zig-zag machines are bottom-only feed mechanisms, very few have bottom + top feed.  If you want bottom+top+needle feed plus zig zag, then I’m not even sure such a machine exists.

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8 hours ago, Uwe said:

Yes, they are exceptionally hard to find, especially used.

Compound feed plus zig-zag is also exceptionally tricky from an engineering standpoint.

Most zig-zag machines are bottom-only feed mechanisms, very few have bottom + top feed.  If you want bottom+top+needle feed plus zig zag, then I’m not even sure such a machine exists.

Oh, at this point I'd settle for a drop feed only z-z machine. Any more advanced feeding that that would be awesome but not required.

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3 hours ago, williaty said:

Oh, at this point I'd settle for a drop feed only z-z machine. Any more advanced feeding that that would be awesome but not required.

Sailrite makes a portable zig-zag walking foot machine with top and bottom feed. Some of our members have and use it.

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18 hours ago, Wizcrafts said:

Sailrite makes a portable zig-zag walking foot machine with top and bottom feed. Some of our members have and use it.

Yeah I've used the straight stitch version of it under the Tandy label. I have to say I am very, very much not a fan of the weird placement of the presser foot lift lever. I'd *prefer* a larger harp space too though that's something I'd compromise on if I had to.

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On 10/11/2021 at 7:23 PM, williaty said:

Oh, at this point I'd settle for a drop feed only z-z machine. Any more advanced feeding that that would be awesome but not required.

The zigZags do pop-up here off and on regularly , and Speak of the Devil ... LOL.HAhahaha . and 1st thing I see when I clik on the Craiglist to take a quick browse .. and I see what you Jonesing For .

A nice clean little ( 107w5 )  ...;)  . . But it killing me a little to, as that machine model was the very 1st machine I bought to learn to sew .

https://portland.craigslist.org/clk/for/d/vancouver-singer-industrial-sewing/7393692542.html

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EDIT ADD :
Craiglist will tease you.. cant beat it .. Just noticed this popup today .. If you in the N.W. , ( OR. WA. area ?? )
IF wanting a good buy on a , 40" Longarm ?  Singer 144W302 compound feed .

This machine Head is just begging for a fresh new table set-up . Looks priced to move @ 1500-$ .. or Best Offer .

https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/bfs/d/port-hadlock-singer-144w302-long-arm/7390184967.html

 

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I see Singer 20U's pop up for sale on FB Marketplace pretty often, and often pretty cheap - A decent machine, if you don't need something really heavy duty.

Better to look for a BLUE one, though, as those are made in Japan - The Gold ones are Chinese manufacture, I believe.

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15 hours ago, trash treasure said:

I see Singer 20U's pop up for sale on FB Marketplace pretty often, and often pretty cheap - A decent machine, if you don't need something really heavy duty.

Better to look for a BLUE one, though, as those are made in Japan - The Gold ones are Chinese manufacture, I believe.

I thought the 20Us were straight stitch. Were there submodels that were ZZ?

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1 hour ago, williaty said:

I thought the 20Us were straight stitch. Were there submodels that were ZZ?

The Singer 20 series are zig-zag machines that can be used as straight stitch by zeroing the side throw.

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19 hours ago, Wizcrafts said:

The Singer 20 series are zig-zag machines that can be used as straight stitch by zeroing the side throw.

Also parts were available for a straight stitch needle plate and feed dog.  I picked a set up about 5 years ago.

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Hmm, sounds like I need to keep an eye out for one. They previous ones I saw before I started looking for a ZZ machine went pretty cheaply.

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One other thing about the 20U - They were never really factory machines, being sold mainly for tailoring use, so you usually find them in pretty nice shape, and not worn out from 3 shift, 24 / 7 type use and abuse.

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On 10/14/2021 at 10:42 PM, williaty said:

Better to look for a BLUE one, though, as those are made in Japan - The Gold ones are Chinese manufacture, I believe.

 

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