Members Dwight Posted February 10, 2022 Members Report Posted February 10, 2022 3 hours ago, Davm said: I thought you wanted to have a period type chaps, so on the zippers, probably not historically correct. On the fringe, always big arguments but I'd look at some period photos and copy the fringe. Cutting and sewing in the fringe will definately be the hardest part of the job. The fringe is not truthfully "hard" . . . just time comsuming. Make a fringe cutter like this out of 1/16 or 1/8 plexiglass . . . I use all three of them . . . but the easiest one to use is the center one. The black line is the only cut in the plexiglass . . . the rest are just lines allowing me to check my work . . . Put down an straight edge to the left . . . shove the back side of the leather even with it . . . lay the cutter down on top of it . . . thumb on one side . . . fingers on the other . . . cut out on the black line . . . Move it up or down . . . I usually work down . . . line up the cut with the alignment line in the plexiglass . . . thumb and fingers down . . . cut it. I can cut out a pretty good sized piece of fringe with this fairly quickly . . . and if you are fairly careful . . . you will have a nice piece of fringe. May God bless, Dwight Quote If you can breathe, . . . thank God. If you can read, . . . thank a teacher. If you are reading this in English, . . . thank a veteran. www.dwightsgunleather.com
Members hickok55 Posted February 10, 2022 Author Members Report Posted February 10, 2022 (edited) 31 minutes ago, Dwight said: The fringe is not truthfully "hard" . . . just time comsuming. Make a fringe cutter like this out of 1/16 or 1/8 plexiglass . . . I use all three of them . . . but the easiest one to use is the center one. The black line is the only cut in the plexiglass . . . the rest are just lines allowing me to check my work . . . Put down an straight edge to the left . . . shove the back side of the leather even with it . . . lay the cutter down on top of it . . . thumb on one side . . . fingers on the other . . . cut out on the black line . . . Move it up or down . . . I usually work down . . . line up the cut with the alignment line in the plexiglass . . . thumb and fingers down . . . cut it. I can cut out a pretty good sized piece of fringe with this fairly quickly . . . and if you are fairly careful . . . you will have a nice piece of fringe. May God bless, Dwight thank you i'll definitely make these. would you say these are work chaps i think they are but i want a second opinion. Edited February 10, 2022 by hickok55 Quote
Contributing Member fredk Posted February 10, 2022 Contributing Member Report Posted February 10, 2022 1 hour ago, Dwight said: Considering that is a staged pic . . . shined chaps . . . brand new cuffs . . . Sunday go to meeting hats on . . . with their Sunday coats . . . I'd really like someone somewhere to give me the low down on these two. A reverse search of the photo just says 'Two Cowboys, Tombstone, Arizona' Somat for hickok55; never trust these studio photos. The drovers arrived in a town, spent some of their money on getting cleaned up and buying new clothes. Then they went to the local photographer to get a photo made. Sometimes, if the drover wanted to show off he could use 'prop' clothes or weapons that the photographer had. Those two drovers may not have owned those chaps. But I do think they owned those quirts, probably just newly bought down at the Indian Exchange store on the edge of town. The chaps look so similar they look like Sears & Roebuck Catalog ones. I'd need to search for my S&R catalogs from that era to check Also, back then, a Cow Boy was a ruffian, to call a cattle drover a Cow Boy was a real insult. One of those names or words which has changed its meaning in a hundred years Quote Al speling misteaks aer all mi own werk..
CFM tsunkasapa Posted February 10, 2022 CFM Report Posted February 10, 2022 I agree with Dwight on the chaps, those are NOT work chaps. Work chaps would just be tied with a thong in the front. If it hooked over the horn it would break, keeping you from getting hung up, drug and killed. Quote Hoka Hey! Today, tomorrow, next week, what does it matter?
Members Dwight Posted February 10, 2022 Members Report Posted February 10, 2022 4 hours ago, fredk said: Also, back then, a Cow Boy was a ruffian, to call a cattle drover a Cow Boy was a real insult. One of those names or words which has changed its meaning in a hundred years Not really sure what paperback book you got that out of . . . but all our folks would have been proud to carry the cowboy moniker . . . Maybe that was true on the great plains north of London . . . lol May God bless, Dwight Quote If you can breathe, . . . thank God. If you can read, . . . thank a teacher. If you are reading this in English, . . . thank a veteran. www.dwightsgunleather.com
Members Dwight Posted February 10, 2022 Members Report Posted February 10, 2022 4 hours ago, hickok55 said: thank you i'll definitely make these. would you say these are work chaps i think they are but i want a second opinion. Honestly . . . never ever saw a pair like that. 1. the way the top is laced together . . . unless that was some very easily broken shoe string or something . . . I would never have worn them. Fact is . . . I'd a tossed the lacing and put in a leather thong or something similar. Again . . . that could get ya hurt. 2. the pockets look normal . . . and the fringe and the way the fringe is attached . . . yeah . . . OK 3. the bottom is just too narrow for any I've ever seen . . . they always flared out . . . but looking at the off side leg . . . looks like a pair of step in chaps . . . might have been something worn around the ranch when working cattle from the ground . . . help keep ya warm . . . and the dried green decoration on the nearest leg would also kind of bear that witness. May God bless, Dwight Quote If you can breathe, . . . thank God. If you can read, . . . thank a teacher. If you are reading this in English, . . . thank a veteran. www.dwightsgunleather.com
Contributing Member fredk Posted February 10, 2022 Contributing Member Report Posted February 10, 2022 16 minutes ago, Dwight said: Not really sure what paperback book you got that out of . . . but all our folks would have been proud to carry the cowboy moniker . . . Maybe that was true on the great plains north of London . . . lol NOT OUT OF SOME DAMNED 'PAPERBACK '!!!!!!!!!!!!! BUT FROM THOSE WHO LIVED THEN AND WROTE THEIR MEMOIRES - NOT JUST ONE OR TWO BUT SEVERAL HOW DARE YOU YOU OBNOXIOUS GIT 'GREAT PLAINS' NORTH OF LONDON INDEED - YOU ARE NOWT BUT AN IDIOT!!!!!!!!!!!! Quote Al speling misteaks aer all mi own werk..
Members Cattledude Posted February 11, 2022 Members Report Posted February 11, 2022 ...lots of experts out there...! Be careful on what you are sure of. Leggins, batwings, shotguns, and chinks are all chaps and have been made & used by what kind the cattledude wanted. Any and all of the chaps in the above photos could have been used by cowboys, therefor they all could be working chaps, if they worked in them... Quote
Members LeatherLegion Posted February 11, 2022 Members Report Posted February 11, 2022 8 hours ago, Dwight said: Considering that is a staged pic . . . shined chaps . . . brand new cuffs . . . Sunday go to meeting hats on . . . with their Sunday coats . . . Might just be actors from some sort of show . . . with their "show" clothes . . . that follow after Marshall Dillon's belt and holster ... those kind of chaps also sewn they way they are across the front would have gotten the rider killed if he slipped forward and it went around the horn of the saddle. . . . both are wearing city boy galluses . . . and only the stage actors carried a horse beater whip like each has on his hand . . . to say nothing of the gold watch chain the dude on the left has . . . ostensibly going to his gold watch . . . that at his age he would not have been able to afford on a dollar a day and grub. The only thing i noticed in that picture , was the tall guy's funny hat ..lol... Any chance you can figure out if the photographer was right or left handed ? Quote
Members Dwight Posted February 11, 2022 Members Report Posted February 11, 2022 3 hours ago, fredk said: NOT OUT OF SOME DAMNED 'PAPERBACK '!!!!!!!!!!!!! BUT FROM THOSE WHO LIVED THEN AND WROTE THEIR MEMOIRES - NOT JUST ONE OR TWO BUT SEVERAL HOW DARE YOU YOU OBNOXIOUS GIT 'GREAT PLAINS' NORTH OF LONDON INDEED - YOU ARE NOWT BUT AN IDIOT!!!!!!!!!!!! But I can spell . . . don't have to scream . . . nor use language not preferable for a full family website. Grow up . . . will you? May God bless, Dwight Quote If you can breathe, . . . thank God. If you can read, . . . thank a teacher. If you are reading this in English, . . . thank a veteran. www.dwightsgunleather.com
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