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  1. Experience has told me, one needs to add an additional 1/2" (3cm) or so, for the thickness of the belt.

    That is if the measure has been obtained from a thin tape such as the one shown.

    It's also worth considering the type of buckle and how it will be worn for the front center:

    If a heel bar buckle. the bar will line up on the "gig line", the overlap of pants.

    If a center bar buckle, the center will be on the fold of the belt around the bar.

    If a trophy style buckle, the center for measure would be between the bar and prong.

    There's more to this than meets the eye, but if you have it all in front of you, it can be figured out with observation.


  2. This pair of boots was a design choice for a lady who is on the short and stout side. I suggested that the triad design, with it's side panels extending all the way to the sole/heel edge, would lengthen her legs, and the neutral color would direct attention to the Ostrich.

    The side conchos and mountain images are tooled and colored on milled veg tan.

    Thanks for looking.








  3. Michael,

    Bespoke is not a style, it is an adjetive for the item for which you made the patterns for a particular person. It's as if to say, "that pair is spoken for".

    Channeling an insole is how some would make a holdfast. There's a few choics of technique for inseaming, which it sounds like you're doing in this part of the conversation.

    Show us a drawing so we can help. There's really "nothing new under the sun".


  4. Michael,

    11 ounce is good, and the buffalo may serve if you can channel it cleanly, but I think it'd be too fiberous. The kind of grain surface is relavant also. You might want to scratch any top finsih off so it will give a little friction and won't crack.

    But to me it sounds as if a heavy skirting would serve. As an insole, you could channel and stitch it, and it would give you the softness you indicated you were after. What can pass for insoles in some applications would be hard and disappointing for a first pair.

    Unless you maybe show a picture or drawing of what you are after though, You'll be on your own in a field of the lost.

    I always tell people that boot/shoe making isn't brain surgery, but a Brain Surgeon could do it.

    With Regards,


  5. I think you are doing great just to be aware of the difference!

    I might add a little more and not worry about being short, but I like your thinking and your process.

    No real bigee, it's not like it's metal, after all.

    My own process is that liners are 4 times shorter than the thickness of the leather in question, when it it is enclosed like your holster here. My teacher calls it he orange peel effect.

    The math is my own.

    The circumfrance of an unpeeled orange will be approximately 4 X's the thickness of the peel greater than the orange itself.

    With this premise a bi-fold wallet liner will be 2 X's the thickness shorter that the wallet back.

    Corrections and disagreements welcome.


  6. First, it looks like you've done the sample shown with a binding attachment, it's so tight. That part looks great!

    If you are using an attachment, you should know there are ones with a trimmer also. I've love one of those myself.

    So while I don't have a binder or do much of it, even the French method, it is much the same as I do when trimming the boot top liner after stitching the top and liner together.

    I leave a 3/8" margin beyond my piping and trim it afterward.

    For trimming, I mostly use a #2 common edger, which I've modified to be easier underneath on the item surface.

    Common edgers are the ones that have like two long toes with the trimming blade being in the crotch.

    What I did was shorten and blunt the "right toe", That toe slides along under the liner as I cut it away. I keep an upward pull on the material so I don't hang up as I cut along the edge. I think you'd want a healthy 1/8" (maybe like 4mm) margin to trim away, to have a fingerhold on the cutoff.

    When I come to a corner I have to keep my attention on where the blade is and not out at the end of the toes making the turn.

    Find the sweet spot and keep your attention there while you cut close alongside of the stitch line.

    This weekend I trimmed the liners on several pair of boots, and gave my #2 French Edger a try, as Bro. Muckart suggests. It went of ok, but I'd want to practice more before I took ownership of the tool for that.

    In either case, a sharp tool is key.

    Common edgers can be sharpened on the edge of your strop board to good effect. I have 1200 wet/dry sandpaper on one side, and rouge soaked horse butt on the other. After working along the corner edge on both left and right edges of the sandpaper side, I turn the strop over and repeat on the rouge side.

    Then, (and this is important) I run a lace with rouge on it over the top of the blade edge (just once) to remove any burr that developes.

    I do the same on my small french edgers. A burr will mess you up everytime.

    I hope this helps. A keen eye and steady hand will be signs of mastery.

    Go for it,


  7. I like to think of myself as the last guy to say a thing can't be done. But it comes down to how it's going to look.

    Making a boot that doesn't sag is taken care of way at the beginning to the design and construction process, so anything done now is going to be half a**.

    The shoe repair trade has "heel liners" for boots that might stiffen it some, but unless you do something to the front, it's still going to sag. And in either case, it's going to be problomatic, because it needs to be stitched blind, even if done on a long arm patcher. And if your stitch line so much as 1/4" away from the edge, the liner can turn at the edge from going in and out of it. That can be irritateing.

    If you wanted to stitch a firmer leather to the ouside, verticaly in the middle of the boots where the sagging is, it might help. But again, it's gonna look bad no matter what.

    My suggestion is to have a pair handmade with this as a paricular request.

    Or just put me down as someone who says it can't be done...