JLSleather

Thanks, and you're welcome. Incidentally, I'll sell you some too I just don't think a guy outta git charged for askin' a simple question! I've seen those "deals" where you pay for a pattern, then pay again for the instructions to use it !#$!@#%!

David, I'm not sure what that meant ↑ But they called me back ... and we agreed to just return and refund - no replacement. Good to talk for a minute with that girl - so I got the chance to apologize for barking at her for something she wasn't responsible for. For the record, Amanda Sumthing was quite pleasant though she might well have legitimately not been But I still don't want the leather Sad part is, I've been trying to RUN OUT for the year ending, but needed a piece for ONE project. If I could have cut that ONE project (belt anda holster) I would have pitched the rest, or used it to make patterns, whatever...

After 40 years, you don't know better than to send out THIS? Or did you know, but thought I DIDN"T? Wait... seems we've been here before That may work for the hobby "crafter", who has no schedule, or is making a neato project for Mom (she won't mind if you're a bit late. Or a year late). How long do you let it go, and how many phone calls, before it's just well past time to admit that a new plan is necessary? I booted my first boy's mother after enough conversations that didn't fix the problem But, try to relax folks. I'm not trying to talk anybody into or outta anything. Next guy, do what you think - no worries here.

I just got a flyer in the mail yesterday, which includes a reduced price on 3/4 oz royal meadow tooling leather. That's always been good leather -- I've used it for years, made a few wallets (or 1000). But I haven't ordered any because they told me that was discontinued and no longer available. Now, it's on sale ... :#!@N@!#$!

Just got done barking at some girl down there. Again. Honestly don't know why I bother ordering leather down there.... but that gal had nothing to do with it and endured me a bit though it wasn't her doing. What AM I missing? Which one (or combination) ... 1.) They don't know leather down there, and are not responsible for what they do. 2.) They DO know leather, but they're thinking that customers DON'T know. 3.) They are aimed at the hobby / cutesy / random customer, and supply to suit that. 4.) They make enough money on the ones that don't know any better - and thus never return it - to cover for some returns without harming the bottom line. There certainly are more. BUT, If 1 is true, then I shouldn't order leather there. If 2 is true, and I order there anyway, then perhaps they were correct and I really AM ignorant (I'm not leaning toward this one ). 3 simply isn't me, and 4 is insulting to them AND me ... I only order leather there when I need a piece or two of something, or something is low. But I think I'm going to go through the records for the year - since it's that time anyway - and see how many I ordered, and out of that how many got returned. Either way, I don't need landfill material and that girl doesn't need somebody bitchin' at her for something she didn't do ...

93 downloads on the ss mag pouch (45)? Guess I was expecting more like twice that ...

Storage is DEFINITELY an issue. With the tooling leather, I'd like to get a RELIABLE splitter, so I could just order one weight and then split what I need. Tiresome having to move a bunch of 9/10 oz so I can cut some of the 3/4 oz (or the other way around). I don't have any latigo (not for a long time) but I do use EB leather in a couple of colors, so there's another thing to put somewhere. Still, splitters have gone the way of everything else these days.. have to sharpen it before you can even use it I can see the mix 'n' match pricing being a benefit ... that would work around here. HO pricing at $8.00/ft (just under for 7 oz or less) is 2015 price, and I think I have an email somewhere that was going up just a bit after the first. But $1/ft mark-up and you can mix the weights don't sound so bad ($25 per side- ish). So it comes down to what they call 'TR'... just how bad ...

Natural tooling leather. Maybe 7/8 or 8/9. Or 3/4 - either way. And only A or B grade (preferably A).

OTB catalog (online) still not much use. They have some nice looking stuff, but I'm just not going to look in one place for the item and somewhere else for the price. Thought they were taking care of that, but maybe I took that wrong (still useless as of yesterday).

Hoiiday tip: FLIP them things fer the lefty version (most cases) Y'all read the fine print on them patterns, now. They's free fer the gittin', but no toolin' / stitchin' / formin' on Christmas! Look up from the bench... some of you will see babies! (if your 'babies' are in their 30's, that still counts!).

YIKES! I left several "single shoulders" on the floor - like maybe for two days (?). I mean the shoulder section that I cut off of backs to make bends, if that clarifies at all. Got wet. Water spill on the floor, seeped up through bottom piece, couldn't see it. Water stain on leather. Maybe it can be thoroughly wet, and the mark come out. Maybe not. What's the point? Come GET IT! It's FREE. If you bought this, expect a couple hundred bucks. Enough to 'suck', but not enough for an insurance claim

So, then, since it's apparently not national security, somebody care to mention teh "wholesale" price of HO sides?

could be. If I have to "sign up" just to see the wholesale pricing, then I'll just continue to pass on that

I have never bought a 'drum' of neatsfoot. But I do like the idea of getting leather from the tannery -- same reason as the wholesale pricing. HO from HO is about $8 per foot, not $12 ($300 per side is $12/ft). That's a 50% mark-up over MY cost, and I'm guessing someone buying 1000 times more hides than I do is getting a price better than mine to begin with. So if people like paying $50-$100 more per hide, have at it. But it seems a little strange to call that "wholesale" pricing.

OnS is correct - that IS confusing. I'm in IA (one of the states listed) and my 'fed tax id' IS my SSN. I also have a sales tax permit which is NOT the same number. I've never shopped at weaver - just clarifying.

Can't tell from that pic. But it shouldn't be on there.

There's no reason for that -- it's unacceptable. Unless they gave it to you, I'd send it back.

I'll send ya wunna them in the morning.

I talked with a rep about this, and told 'em if I wanted to call HO I would have already done that.. but I called W/C to see what we do to fix this problem. Maybe the only way around it is after the first of the year, just take a trip out to PA and pick it myself.

Maybe you're in Ohio? Prices you mention are close enough to new... I'd call Bob and ask about the 206RB-5, or maybe the Cowboy 227R . He can tell you the difference. I know the Consew, and I still regret letting mine go. Dependable machine, wide range of stitch lengths, sews 3/8"+ well, and I used thread sizes 42 to 207 without trouble.

Just FYI, without going clear into that, english bridle is also "veg tanned". If you're going to tool or stamp the belt, then go with carving leather (sometimes called skirting, or tooling leather). If you are looking for a great belt that will look nice and wear basically forever, go with the english bridle. As always, keep in mind not all leathers are equal. Wickett / Craigs "formula" might not be the same as someone else's, so "english bridle" from one may not be like the next. One more consideration.. it would be very difficult to dye the bridle leather. So either purchase that in the color you want, or get the skirting leather to color it yourself.

Thanks, Boss

Them cobra and cowboy things the same way, but not NEARLY as smoothly ...