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A-HA! I thought I had commented on this ... This guy has a good pic in that thread.. showing both THIS ISSUE and the difference between the G17 and the G19 (I get asked about that frequently). Yeah, Sam (Andrews) did a quick little thing about how to derive your lines. No frills, no pirated music (sorry!), but very clear and to the point VISUAL INSTRUCTION (which should be the point of a video, but has become the exception) of what we're talking about here. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PdKDmcmu8k&t=2s

Still a good question. Didn't I post something on this? I'll check on that ... These two i'm bringing up from the rear to hi-lite the original question. After all this time (and probably long before) not only not a video recommend, but not even a "jot down what you actually got out of it" Since nobody else did, I'll say that Jim Simmon's article on here about making a holster is pretty informative and should be useful to most if not all.

I didn't see much info about this machine (google returns a lot of Sesame Street). First question should be will the machine do what you want to do. Price is irrelevant if it doesn't do what you need. It's not a "good deal" if it doesn't do the task. That said, I would ask what size needle and thread the machine uses. I don't know what "cowboy gear" is, but for the holsters and belts you mention you'll want something that uses at least a #23 needle and 207 thread. Some will tell you that you need at least 277 thread, but I'm not one of them (those ppl saying 207 thread isn't strong enough could maybe do a video of them BREAKING some 207... ). On holsters, I often DO use 277. It may well sew "clothing" (you didn't mention any details). Leather shirt? Possibly. Leather boots? Unlikely.

We cleared out those downloads - site is now FLYIN' FAST We aren't doing patterns with any regularity - not free ones, not paid ones, not with a fox Doesn't mean I won't suddenly post something random at some random time Meanwhile, you folks that downloaded those (nearly a quarter of a million times) don't be bashful about passin' 'em on when somebody needs one!

Still nuthin', eh? Heavy sigh ...

No updated link - we're out of those. But with a quarter million downloads, good chance somebody got a copy they can send you. Spread 'em ALL AROUND!

'Course, at some point it may be asked - if you're going to go through all of that, why not just "3d print" the holster?

I haven't made a shoulder rig in ... a long long time. This looks nice -- the snake looks good (that's a good bit of sewing!). Looks like you used something light on the straps to keep the weight down? But I did want to ask why a retention adjustment screw AND the thumb strap?

I get that all the time. Hey, Jeff.. instead of $100, how bout I pay you $79? So you want me to take a $21 pay cut? Well, see, I'm willing to buy 100 of those. So you want me to take a $21 pay cut 100 times?

Anybody willing to do all that for $10?@! That would require considerable measuring - either a good bit of time with a micrometer or a considerable cost for a 3D scanner. If I spent the time and/or the money, I don't think the resulting file would be $10

For a first, that isn't bad. You seem to have an eye to see things not everyone does (which is a good thing). You certainly could benefit from what figure carvers refer to as matting. Stohlman's figure carving book is very good and detailed - I think everybody should have it. But there's also a very good discussion of this exact thing - matting and carving horses - right on this site. This is quite good.

Oh, and keep in mind that some really aren't interested in crisp detail.. they actually WANT their work a bit out of focus. Suede lining is a favorite of some who want to hide a wrinkle or a lining that isn't smooth. So sometimes it's simply for speed - smaller wrinkles and spots that aren't smoothed out are less conspicuous. You'll notice that many of the higher volume manufacturers use a suede liner. But no, not all suede is chrome tanned.

absolutely true. no matter the brand or the hype. "good" or "bad". expensive, or not. for quality or for ego. none of that matters - if you wanna use it, use it.

Okay, still not 'gittin'" it on the angle thing. But I will say that your basket stampin' is crisp 'n' nicely done -- looks great!

That seems to be getting more wide spread, too. If I was a guessin', I'd say that's partly because suede tends to be cheap (compared to tooling leather), and because new guys ('n' gals) see others doing it, so they follow suit. I don't care for the use of suede leathers in a holster. It does not form, does not harden. Some will say it's softer, and somehow better for the finish of your gun - I'm not one of them, but it's out there. Like a carpet, it collects stuff that falls in - harder to clear out. It doesn't burnish. You can make allowances so that it doesnt extend to an outside edge, but why? So when I make lined holsters, I usually use tooling leather. Instead of 8 oz leather, I might use two layers of 4 oz, or a 6 and a 2 oz. Or if I want to make something heavier (say, for large revolvers) I might line with a VEG TANNED split. This is useful, for instance, if I want to dip-dye the holster, but don't want the inside dyed. Just dunk the main holster, then line with the split. End up with the same finish on the inside that you would have had frm using the single layer, but the inside is not dyed and the edges burnish well.

I marked it a while back for other reasons. But I looked through it now, and i really wonder why he almost went out of the way NOT to reinforce the sweat shield. Going through all that, seems like carrying the shark (in this case) up over the sweat guard would have been simple.

Dunno what type IWB you was thinkin' bout, but this guy gave a talk you could follow: http://leatherworker.net/forum/topic/22992-reinforced-throat-iwb-w-sharkskin/ and this guy made a [slightly long-winded] video about a somewhat different style https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36YrAHglme0

You are talking about something at least a few of us are interested in knowing but do not currently know. That makes you qualified.

HEY BOSS .. this is the definition of "good hair day" ! I mean the largest compliment on this great work - to be sure nothing is lost in the translation, I'll use this more graphical fella

So WHO ARE these "masters" who gracefully bestowed the knowledge, and I ask to know how "far back" we would need to search. I think I found this place about 6 er 7 years ago - don't really remember. I knew leather before I got here, so I figured it was a win-win-win. Either I could GET something (win) or give something (win) or we could have a friendly offhand conversation about leather stuff with others interested in leather (win). But, the posts with actual content certainly were ... outweighed. I do not know who the "masters" were. Stohlman, Pohja, Jennings, all dead before I was here. Some would say Bob Park and Peter Main (and I've seen stunning work by both) but the only posts I've ever seen from those men was selling a class or a book. Not that there's anything "wrong' with either of those things. And again, I DID ask how far we need to "go back". Oh, and I STILL find that horse carving discussion GREAT stuff (Kate, wasn't it?) whether you call her a "master" or not. And, some really skilled carvers you know of are off doing "endorsements" at Tandy or other conglomerate .. in fact many cases that's WHY you know of them. Before long, I took a year(ish) off - just didn't use the site at all. When I clicked on it again, I noticed some of the people who used to hang out weren't around any more. Each his own, whatever. More clear was the fact that there were some sissy mary types who went from asking the most basic questions when I found the place to suddenly experts to be sought out for all things in the space of the year I was off doing actual leather work. I would add a little guy rolling on the floor laughing about that right here, except I just kaint seem to see it as funny, or amusing, or legit, or even rational, that somebody who spent his (her) day asking questions and getting free help and advice would then create a web site where he SELLS that same information he got for free I generally don't post those "i aint never dun that but if it was me" posts - if it doesn't concern me, then it doesn't. Other hand, I don't post those "I'm the one who decides what is acceptable" posts .... In fact, I really posted in this thread mainly because this right here was knee-slappin' funny ↓ SO THEN: I'll check back on occasion maybe see if we have an answer for whose advice we should have, and how far we need to go back in time to get it. And wonder why for years, I always auto want to spell occasion with one 'c' and two 's' .. it's just weird.

That's certainly a fairly unique set up. Still feels "backwards" loading the thing, but neat design. That's right, the bullets run UPHILL when upside down.

That's a pretty good "plug'. I've never used the stuff, but it does have an interesting grain. You've convinced me to try it out.

I don't mind stain, it's just that ant-streak crap i don't have But I DO know that black dye in and around the carvings can be TOUGH!

skulls really so no my thing, but this looks purdy good. Toolin', and applique'in', and pipin' .. gittin' ALL fancy over there!

I've seen discussions about basket stamp angles before, going back about 30 years seems like. Must be something obvious there i'm not seeing (i remember not saving that "doodle page" I got about this in the 80's). I always just scribe a light line where i want the stamp to run on a holster, and belts have their own quick little way of linin' 'em up. Think I got a pic round here somewheres ... That holster looks good, so I'm assuming that you have a valid, worthwhile point here that Im' just maybe not seeing. But, wakin' up and getting ready to git busy so maybe some light humor with coffee before the phone madness starts? Maybe make us a video of how to make / determine this angle? And what benefit we get from doing it? Be sure to charge us for the video, so we know its "worth more" ... Oh -- cell phone video is fine, long as it aint shakey and shows the point of what yer talkin bout. We care about the knowledge, not the "production"