Gregg From Keystone Sewing

I do find this interesting to say the least. I have seen a Kingmax come into our shop for 'repair', as in this was a new machine brought to us to make it work. It was, to say the least, a real mess when it showed up. That said; I do realized that Kingmax slaps their label on a wide variety of machines, and many do not come from under the same roof where they are made. In fact, the machine we had here may have nothing related to the other machines other than the brand name sticker. So, point here is that even we can be duped into thinking their entire product line is not strong, based off of one machine, and that may not be true. Just as well, this machine was here quite some time again, maybe they improved.

See attached. This image above is very common across a large variety of machine makes and models, too many to list. Others, as you mention have the stitch length dial. Others, to add to this, have a stitch length regulator built into the reverse/backtack lever, such as an Adler 267 or Pfaff 1245, or older Consew 206RB-1, -2 models.

Ahh, that changes things for sure.

$1,500 for an Adler 67? I wish I could get that kind of coin for a machine like that. That sounds high. The 206RB you mention sound a bit more in the correct price range.

Here is the Elizabethport, NJ catalog pages for the 6- class. Includes almost all but the 6-9. Only a few parts that work on the 7-31/33 machine will work here. Singer6Class.pdf

I could be incorrect here for sure, BUT, if it's what I think I'm thinking, take a look at the tension release slide. The upright pin shown both with Index #11 and a red arrow can break off, and this is kind of sort of the symptoms you will have as you described. If this is in fact broken, the front of of the machine (needle bar frame, etc.) has to come out along with the presser bar assembly, not a small job for anybody to replace this part.

Some more information, for those who care to know; Consew 206RB-5 is the newest, current model. Consew 206RB-4 has TWO different models, one with a serial number prefix "TH", the other, "SH". Many screw pitches and diameters are different, all over the machine, as well as some parts. Difference between either 206RB-4 machines and 206RB-5 machine is that the 206RB-5 does have a Push in lock for the stitch length dial. This is because some 206RB machines without this push in dial would jump out of adjustment at high speeds. Also (one more thing, I can't help myself here) Consew 206RB, RB-1, & RB-2 have a reverse lever that lifts up, and the stitch length is changed here with a ratchet ring and spring and ball to hold this adjustment in place.. The 206RB-3, -4s, & -5 all have the same push down lever for reverse with the stitch length dial.

Here is the Pfaff model and subclass code information for this machine; 345=Pfaff Model H3=Foot lift 5.5mm, Fabric Clearance 11mm, 134-35 system needle 6=Needle Size and style of point to be stated on order C= Includes Safety Clutch, model type for fabric or leather L=Application Type (can't find specific applicaiton type for 'L') N=Stitch Length 6mm maximum Often, these codes are difficult to decipher, and I'm not the best at doing so. I always have to go to a combination of the parts books, sales brochures in order to locate this type of info, and it's often 40 years old plus.

Juki has done that with some models. First one that came to mind that was a surprise was their popular DDL-8700 series, that, originally, was coming from Japan. They have since switched the manufacture of the DDL-8700 to China some time ago, and now offer the DDL-5550N from Japan. It's funny how nobody makes any announcements they just show up with a different country of origin Kind of like switching overnight Toyota Japan, to China without prior notice. Nobody advertises "New, now made in China!" when the switch is made. I'm not singling out Juki, just about all of our suppliers have done this at some point in recent years with their products.

Never a problem, good luck with your machine, all the best.

Dear R*2, If you are within range, why not come and kick the tires on our 335? We do have a showroom, and this machine is available for demo. This way you can see for yourself what you think. Just call ahead if you are on your way, and don't forget thread and material samples if you want to see it run through the machine. All the best, thanks!

$1,400 used? Juki does make some models in their line up in China, and country of manufacture is written on the model label. DNU-1541 series have never been made in China, to date. I sell those with FESM-550S servo motor setup complete ready to sew, complete with six month machine/one year motor warranty, store walk in price of $1,485. So, that's what I think of that price.

This is as close to sewing machine pornz as I can remember!@# Now I have to buy a pair of Red Wings, because, well, I just do now.

http://keysew.com/Webpages/Owners&PartsBooks/PartsBooks/153B1,B8,B8B.pdf Here is the "Singer" parts book, but every parts image and page is a direct copy of Seiko's parts book. All numbers are good, current Seiko part numbers.

Yes, exactly, Seiko CW-8B, is same machine, for sure, as Singer 153B8B. This is a new, current model machine made my Seiko Sewing Machine Corp.(again, there are many Chinese copies of this model as well). New current model from Seiko is CW-8B-2. In fact, if you do have the parts book for the 153B8B, they still use the Seiko part numbers. All parts and accessories are available, both genuine Seiko and many quality generic part as well. This design for the Seiko machine was originally taken from the Singer 153W101, and, again, share many of the same parts. Singer 153W series does not have a reverse.

This machine was, for certain, made by Seiko Sewing Machine Corp. in Japan; this line was brought into the US and sold Under both the Brother name and Singer names, with their own model numbers, before Consew settled in and sold this line for a long time. Consew model is 227R, Seiko model is CW-8B, and all parts and accessories are available genuine Seiko and some generic parts as well. Still a new, current model from Seiko. Very common presser feet and needle system, regular size G bobbin, also very common.

We have a new 267 machine coming in from Durkopp Adler, already on order but not here, and no firm ETA. Machines originally were from Germany, of course, and we after that had a pretty decent run on the Chinese 267-373 machines DA was offering for a number of years before they, again, stopped production. New model is coming in from China as well, is my understanding. The positive is that the older 267s will still be supported, even though Adler never ran out of replacement parts that I'm aware of at all with this model series.

I've put these on some of the newer style Highlead GC22618-8B , Consew 227R, all copied from Seiko PW-8B machine. Some of the newer models have two holes on the back near the presser foot lifting lever that we can mount the guide onto without drilling and tapping holes.

By model number, Singer 112W140 is a needle feed, drop feed machine, not a walking foot. And, if you do use it as a single needle, keep in mind the limitations of not being able to use cording or welting feet with it.

Thompson Mini Walker was the first, Consew CP206 is really one and the same, I am pretty sure from the same factory in Taiwan Machine will sew up to a V138. I can't tell you what machine to spend your money on or go with, but the portables are great for on site repairs small jobs, not a production machine in any way shape or form.

Damn, I would like to know myself! Never seen Adler equipment quite like that first black machine.

Ouch! Cobra Steve is a well respected contributor around these parts, often helping folks who will never offer a dime for his time, expertise or services. No reason to drop killer statements here.

Click link for owners book download. Kindly note Seiko STW-8B = Consew 226R. This is NOT a copy, this is one and the same machine from the same Seiko factory in Japan, all notes of course apply within book. http://keysew.com/Webpages/DemoImages/Seiko_STW-8B_226R_Owners.pdf

PM sent, all the best

Hope this helps, click image to expand