HOT DAMN! I feel at home again! thanks for the kind words from all and as to the slipping issue a little piece of tool box non-slip sponge (its like 1/16 thick) cemented to the inside does the trick! no slippage with 00, 000, or slug and SS shot defense rounds! plus the lace infront and behind the sling mount helps too. I like the triweave stamp of all the basketweave and yep its a bear to keep strait! thanks again to all and good to be back! look for the sling make over for the same gun.