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Bravo Plink! looks very well made! Are the rivets through the case or covered by a lining? Curious if you use speedy rivets or the hammer/roundover ones- Love the look! Good project!

Bill- a band-aid over the pinky prior to starting will prevent the nasties and scuff marks- as well provides a measure of protection for your skin if you are going to be using the swivel much. I use Coban tape.

I would like to thank everyone for commenting and assisting- The choice was the Brother- and I am going to start a thread for it as well. The Singer didnt have reverse and as well was more expensive. Interesting- the Brother came with CONSEW parts manuals! A personal thank you to all. @Constabulary @aroh99 @SARK9 @Wizcrafts @Kohlrausch

NOT my machine- I have NOT sewn with this machine- It was a contender on my list and I passed on it to get another machine instead. Lady's name is Abby- She bought the machine from a reseller/maintenance guy local to me who has been a good fellow to deal with form my other domestic machines in the past. https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/467167460780552/?ref=messenger_banner Figured this would be a good buy on a relatively "newly" serviced and refurbed machine. Low hours (only about 2 hours total since she purchased it) and its on a table with clutch motor ready-to-sew. It is under power and you can sew with it prior. Reach out to her- Just trying to help out! Silver

@toxo I love it- a family member bought the pattern for me to make them a Motoko as well- nice to see one done outside the video! I will now firmly heist your cable idea into my work- I deal with quite a few travelers and security contractors this would appeal to! Excellent idea for the strap- Ive been doing faraday cage wraps with stainless steel mesh in some canvas items- this may make the jump into leather as well. Bravo for the thought and the implementation! A question if I might- do you find the 2.4mm leather to be too floppy? More importantly does your daughter find it too soft? Bravo Toxo.

If you go to a vet/horse supply house and just get CaCl USP you can make these cheaper than buying- you can re-crystallize it as well if you feel like the hassle. Do it solar and its a lot of fun to watch the crystals grow! For the recurring costs associated with a garage space I just went with a de-humidifier. The silica gel packs are for the toolbox. I pay a few bucks (overall savings is still being calculated as I am new- yes my wife is an accountant and is tracking this stuff) but my workshop is dry. Put it on a timer switch to run 12 hour nights and you just need to empty the pail every day! Best of luck! Let us know how you fare with this adventure

Thanks Aroh99- This will be very helpful pricing replacements too... thanks again!

Thanks DC the casting is why I am suspect and trying to get better info. Many standardized castings but what's on the inside is my concern. Looks like it... But there again... Will it function the same? Stay tuned! My biggest pull to the brother is reverse and stitch selector... But I'm gonna have to sew with them to know Be safe and have a great day!

I live along the Chesapeake Bay- a lot of salt and chill in the air- my garage has covers for all the machines- sew them yourself out of marine grade Sunbrella or heavy material... A cheap dessicant source for keeping my toolbox dry is going to any cheap footwear/shoe store (I got a whole shoebox full from Walmart local to me) These are in packets. spread them on a cookie sheet- heat in oven at UNDER 200 for about 3 hours seal them into a Gallon Ziploc and put it on the shelf- every couple of weeks- toss one in the drawer when you're out of packets- just collect them, heat the oven up and repeat. Hope this helps! You dont have to spend a lot of money on the dessicants- and they are re-useable!

Thanks again Wiz- That is a video in my que to watch! Normally the promos are just sewing thicknesses- this is great info and I appreciate it. The download manual is awesome as well- I see that link in my google search and as I dont download things thanks to a previous virus (unless its from a dropbox I trust or google drive). I appreciate it.

@Uwe Well- looks like you can't delete a @ link after it's in on the phone! Sorry UWE... For thread weights I understand that upholstery machines may not handle 207. Thanks for that and the flywheel tip! @Wizcrafts and @Constabulary! Thanks @Kohlrausch... The missing plate is one reason the price is low... Still can't find if this brother uses "M" bobbins... Any thoughts? The reverse isn't a deal killer but for either one I am looking at adding a servo... For the price I'm leaning on the Brother... For getting straight to work I'm on the Singer...

@RockyAussie Bravo yet again! Sage advice- tart to the taste for sure of the Etsy crowd- but nonetheless needed info! Leatherwork is an art form- and like you say- getting it INTO the eyes and hands is a hard point to wrangle. Enjoying the post- I look forward to more!

First off thanks for reading- I apologize for taking up all the bandwidth with my questions-! My original deal on the 20U and 29K patcher fell through- bummer deal! I really was hoping to be posting pictures of some first stitches in my own space on this rainy Saturday night! But now I am looking again- and have 2 potentials for pickup next week: BROTHER LS2-F52A- its old, looks worn- but the price is right... Has a K-table, Clutch motor, reverse SINGER 211-G165- This unit is lightly used- has been sitting for 3 years- current owner bought it from dealer local to me. Clutch motor, It has H-style table, Thread stand and light- NO REVERSE I have searched the forums for this Brother- only got one hit- most other interweb hits are hot rodders using it for upholstery. Looks like a "Little Brother" to the B837 and seems comparable to the Consew 206 in model style/body. I am looking for a machine that will sew projects LESS THAN 0.5 inch- so both machines meet that. Thread weights for the BROTHER I am not sure of- Anyone have a thought or a hint? Im not one to assume but I imagine it will go to the 207 level as well- seems like many of the lighter industrials and lower commercial models do 69-207 weights. The Singer 211G will handle 69-207 "top thread" according to many postings- but the bobbin maxes out at 138 in several upholstery forums. I am leaning for the Brother- but without knowing anything about the machine (manual not avail from Brother, couldnt find anything online and its general condition...) I am leery. Anyone use this model Brother? Pros and Cons are welcome- I am doing my part but finding gaps in the literature on the Brother... The Singer outside of no reverse is the better "deal" but the no reverse may be a deal killer for me (larger projects I can't turn under the arm) HELP! Im in analysis paralysis! HA!

OK so went to get the patcher and 20U today... Bummer news- the fellow sold both for cash before I arrived. The Premier was not operational and had a crack in the housing casting- Im not set up to braze and repair these- he said the K-Table fell over after he took pics- and he didnt "see" any damage... AAARRRGH! He just wanted the cash and grab easy sell- Im certainly glad the other guys got a steal (Patcher AND 20U sold TOGETHER for 500 cash). I did get some sailcloth and heavy canvas. All was not lost- but DANG I HATE GETTING LIED TO! OK- rant over... Thanks for the assistance guys! Im trying to upgrade my game... the search continues! Hopefully this thread will help someone in the future! GREAT INFO

Thanks Gregg! I actually wanted the 20u for canvas- the others are basically toss-ins like above. Any special feet Im looking at for this machine or are these standard? Do you mind if I PM you about the other players in this "fire-sale" find? Thanks folks for all the help!

Thank you to Wiz, DRM, and Mike! The 29K is my buy- these are basically throw-ins to clear the fellows space. Since I see his info and the reality of the "Chainstitch" machine are different it is clear he was the inheritor of the shop and never set foot in the back..

Hello folks! Looking at a going out of business deal near me for the Singer 29K patcher- guy has a "Bundle of machines" as he puts it... So I am thinking about giving him a price on all 4. I am mainly looking for advice for the chainstitch machine- never used one and dont know the "care and feeding" of this little beastie... I am making a few more canvas and denim bags with leather edging and rims recently and thought I would see if the "roped" chain stitching looked any better- but have never seen one of these machines in action. I know the Singer 20U is not the 20u-33 many talk about- but it is a heavier machine than my part-plastic "heavy domestic" modern Singer and should be able to do zig-zag stitching in heavier canvas. The Premier looks to be a single thread(?) Chain Stitcher- I can not find any real info so I am asking the collective to offer any insight on this machine pros or cons- Picture attached- Be safe and have a great day and thanks for looking and if nothing else getting a chuckle out of a guy who didnt know how to sew trying to learn as he goes (and keeping all his fingertips in-tact!) HA! Have a great day!

@Paloma- two suggestions if I may- I come from a bit of a metalworking background so these may be outside your comfort level- but if not- hope this helps! 1. if you have a jeweler or a Maker-space near you you could "trade" work for try getting them to cast a few- Brass is not hard to investment cast and the cleanup is not particularly hard. I have a "Maker-space" near me with a casting setup for both centrifugal and vacuum casting- and Brass is cheap. Although I am not getting large amounts done- I have been able to get things cast for my other hobbies reasonably priced. 2- Look into making or buying a Wire Jig for jewelry work like the one shown below- its fairly easy to get annealed Brass wire/rod stock at a welding supply house (sold as "Brazing Fill Rod" in the US) that has no lead- anneal it and bend away! A dot of plumbing solder and some flux- and you are in business! https://www.amazon.com/bending-Table-Mount-Forming-bender/dp/B00FN5SE00 I hope this helps- Be safe and have a great weekend folks!

Thank you @DrmCa

Hello folks! Trying to sew some canvas and webbing bags with lightweight (2-4oz) veg-tan trim and accents. I have been using an older singer 15 Japanese clone. 1- the stitches are too close aesthetically. 2- the poor ol' gal is giving it her best but Im running into an issue with her bogging down in the webbing+canvas+2oz doubled. There is a Brother S 7200A-433 available near me for pretty near dirt cost+ gas to go get it. So- Im asking if this is anything like a decent webbing machine with canvas- it has a stitch operation for box/"X" and bartacking- but Im not sure if it matters as I am using seatbelt webbing- and if this machine is used to sewing lighter (not as tight) woven nylons then its a moot point to buy the machine. I've been asked about pictures- and yes I would love to show some, however I am working under contract for a makerspace and as such these designs are not my own and Im not able to show the product(s). Sorry about this. Im working in my "own" space this fall so hopefully pics to come! But for now- Any thoughts on the S7200 for webbing?

Dude- this was awsome as a work! Tony Sees' patterns are a bit of a staple in getting folks into leatherworking- Your bag looks good with the accent pieces!

@LederMaschinist Not a prob- if you want to explore a "Novel" way to thin with a knife look into the industrial planer blades- M4 or D2 and up to 18 inches long- Although at 1.25-1.5 inches wide as well. If you use any HSS you are ahead of the curve for edge retention with a decent hardness (using a chisel grind). Use some mild steel with a couple of press fit bearings, angle iron struts for bracing and stabilization and roller assembly for pinch/guide and a 16tpi thread to the blade height adjust (divisor of 64 for "easy" thickness calculations). Ive been trying to cobble one up around home but "life" keeps getting in the way- I like Rockys' sander assembly but dont have the room in my little garage for the setup... Im still just experimenting and tinkering... You may have a bit (HA! A Ton is more like it!) more ability with the machining shop versus my hacker-space tinker bench! Just a thought- Be safe and as always- have fun!

Following as well- I appreciate Rocky for sharing his setup (again). Hey Leder- are you a machinist?

Thank you Tony! That cleared up a bit- thank you guys as always

Bravo man looks great!