chuck123wapati

Thanks!! You all got a well deserved break from my BS.

i got a my pioneer license this year so free fish, birds and small game, that's as close to winning a lottery as i'll ever get, I couldn't be better lol.

happy Easter to you as well it was wonderful day.

nope I was not banned and I wasted six bucks last week on that lottery to no avail. I wont discuss the reasoning of my absence any further. I hope you all have been well and really really appreciate the concern, it does mean a lot to me. God bless!! Chuck

you have it you just have to figure out how to use it. I had an old driller out in the oil field tell me one time, "Fire ball"( my nick name because I was always running. ), "Fireball" he said "your working faster than you can think". Truer words were never spoken in my case.

Just think how hard it would be with out hands. God gave us everything we need to succeed even patience.

Awesome idea my daughter would love that, she uses an old basket that is to big and bulky.

i make the smaller ones out of cans better suited for carrying they are quite fun to play with and use but not nearly as hardy. I like your recipe, i have a bag of cotton balls stuffed with Vaseline in my pack.

its round, its purple, its knda cool lookin. My guess is a thingy to hold you stocking hat and gloves when you take em off in the store. At least I'll get three out of four lol.

dont use an ink pen if the paper tears you will have a nice ink line to follow. I use a stylus to trace. you can also buy craft aids from Tandy for pre made designs.

They did, they also used some oils depending on the use of the leather. Oils make your leather soft so you use them as you want your leather to become. I would tend to think saddle makers didn't want a lot of softness but more long term water resistance so didn't use much. Other old recipes I've seen have had added oils. Do you feel like you've walked around the Grand canyon and just got back to the parking lot lol.

i would be prouder than punch over that. I'm with you though its a ton of work but worth every bit for a grand Niece.

LOL I cant talk of that on social media. but a finer Brandy I've never tasted.

So basically just do the same thing the old guys back in 1895 did, and the old guys in the 1700s, 1600s, 1500s...

i figure two days to make one batch, one to collect the fresh flowers, herbs, and a day to distill and collect the oils. Get some really nice smelling pipe tobacco and smoke your leather with it.

yes I just picked some up at the store but we did add some lemon juice as well to the one. I would like to try and make some someday but finding the time during the spring is difficult.

it actually matches the mottling of the outer piece, i would use it and call it a happy accident.

tallow, greases and oils all have specific melting points and is one thing that defines them as different. I think tallow melt point is about 104 or so. the addition of wax will raise the melting point a bit. I am in process of making soap with some of my Elk tallow lol. So far I have 36 bars of Lemon , Lavender and peppermint scented soaps with another 12 bars to be molded today. That will be enough bar soap for at least a year. I may make up a bit of conditioner just for shits and giggles. I still have several pounds to use up. I wonder now how hard it will be to render out some fish oils for experimental purposes lol.

awesome little bag you did great!!!! My only suggestion for your next one is maybe a liner.

I cant really see/understand adding a solvent/degreaser to an oil based product. The only thing i can see it would do is break down the oils and waxes to possibly help move them through the leather but they don't really need the help if mixed properly and at the proper ratios and applied correctly. Does it evaporate out at some point or stay in? I guess I'm saying, the two are opposite in the intent of keeping good oils and greases in the leather, why would you add a degreaser to grease?

In what book anywhere have you ever read that ash, lye and urine are used or ever were used as a conditioner? Is it in the one you wouldn't post because I prolly wouldn't read it anyway? Still waiting I wont let you down. BTW they are still relevant and still used in processing leather lol as well as many products people use daily. Just made some soap used 100% pure lye just like the big companies do. Haha and thank you for making my day as well. it also proves this "People tend to disagree with personal opinion, vague descriptions, misconception or misrepresentation. " no matter the venue! Here is the statement you wrote. "When it comes to leather work, it's no different, especially when some old guy in 1892 wrote down in a book that he used ingredient X ,because that's all they had at the time, so now it's considered gospel that cannot be questioned or a more suitable modern ingredient used in its place. One can slather just about anything on leather, but the old saying "just because you can, doesn't mean you should" should be kept in mind, even in this day and age." Clarify exactly how it logically says this. " there are indeed some recipes from way back when that are still good in this day and age. " Fact is it doesn't say that at all, doesn't even hint at that. I'll repost my response, it needs no clarification. " I'll demonstrate a misconception you made, here is a short list of old guys from 1892 who wrote books. https://www.thefamouspeople.com/19th-century-scientists.php They had everything in 1892 you have now to make leather conditioner except maybe a few synthetic oils of which I see none mentioned in this thread. Obviously people of that era also had the intellect and scientific knowledge to make it. " My point is and has been you want to make folks think that leather conditioning is some new found science, because its probably a marketing ploy for you. All conditioners are a mixture of fats oils and waxs and have been for centuries. As well all the "alternative oils" you reference were also used back then and as easily accessible as they are today. Olive oil, coconut butter and bee poop, or whatever buzz word concoction, conditioner isn't new my friend, the folks that buy it from you may think so but most folks here know better. I wish you well with that most of the newer leather folks provide a small tin of super secret, eco friendly, sustainable, special stuff to rub on their leather work. It gives younger folks that warm fuzzy feeling and makes them part of the process. she probably would want want the leather sandals either.

Excellent workmanship, they work well for rabbits also, keeps the fleas off ya. it will darken a bit but its better than getting ruined by water. Any good boot water proofing will work, except that spray sillycone crap. remember the straps are veg tan and if they get wet and left to dry they will get hard and crack unless conditioned well so get some nfo and a good coating on them.

I agree with your first statement. People tend to disagree with personal opinion, vague descriptions, misconception or misrepresentation. Facts are undeniable, the up side to disagreement is science depends on it. Its called peer review. Dubbin has been used for centuries. you call it conditioner. it was made from tallow , beeswax, and fish or animal oil. It was produced as a commercial product as early as the 18th century. I'll demonstrate a misconception you made, here is a short list of old guys from 1892 who wrote books. https://www.thefamouspeople.com/19th-century-scientists.php They had everything in 1892 you have now to make leather conditioner except maybe a few synthetic oils of which I see none mentioned in this thread. Obviously people of that era also had the intellect and scientific knowledge to make it.

that is a nice looking piece!! great looking tooling and a great project, i need a couple for my vehicles lol.