Recommend a permanent low sheen sealer

[jasonsmith]

I'm getting back into leather, and plan to try and sell pieces. When I did this years ago as a personal hobby, I bought a bunch of different sealers, i.e. Roseline, Angelus, and Eco-Flo, etc.  I was interested in low sheen as I don't like leather that looks like plastic. I use Feibing's Pro Oil dye.

I found there are a lot of satin sheens, etc. that come out high gloss. And some that would sometimes come out high gloss or satin. So those would be inconsistent and thus unusable.

Anyways, years ago I ended up settling on Eco-Flo Satin Sheen as it was the most consistent of the ones I bought at the time. Though I read that Eco-Flo isn't considered that durable compared to other products.

Can anyone recommend satin sheen sealers that are consistent, i.e. easy to get a smooth satin sheen on a 12"x12" piece of leather, and that are durable as it will never be messed with again? As I'll be putting in grommets and spots, so this will be permanent and I want it to have at least water resistant properties, so that makes me think something along the lines of acrylic. I know there are some things that people rub in every so often, but this would need to be permanent where the customer wouldn't ever mess with it.

I figured I'd try to get it narrowed down some so I don't have to buy as many different brands to run tests on.

Thanks

[Dwight]

If you only use one coat . . . you might try a product called Mop and Glo . . . it is made for kitchen floors.

Some old timers used it in a 1 to 1 thinning with common tap water . . . dipped it . . . and when it dried . . . you were done.

From what I was told years ago by one of the earlier members here . . . Katsass . . . it worked very well . . . was less expensive than others . . . and only got serious with the shine if you added multiple coats.

Worth  a try anyway.

May God bless,

Dwight

[jasonsmith]

3 hours ago, Dwight said:

If you only use one coat . . . you might try a product called Mop and Glo . . . it is made for kitchen floors.

Some old timers used it in a 1 to 1 thinning with common tap water . . . dipped it . . . and when it dried . . . you were done.

From what I was told years ago by one of the earlier members here . . . Katsass . . . it worked very well . . . was less expensive than others . . . and only got serious with the shine if you added multiple coats.

Worth  a try anyway.

May God bless,

Dwight

Thanks, but I'm going to stick with traditional leather sealers like Feibing's, Angelus, or Eco-Flo, etc. I think acrylic is probably what I'm going to end up going with due to weatherproofing, though not sure what else may be out there as it's been 10 years. I'm looking at starting to sell pieces and so wanted to do some research on a more durable sealer, if there is one that stays satin.

I used Eco-Flo satin sheen 10 years ago when I did this as a hobby for a while. Not sure if the Angelus matte or satin sealer maintains a satin sheen and is more durable, or if there is something by Feibing's. As I know there is stuff in the spray cans, but hoped to get some suggestions so I can buy say 3 to try out instead of 10.

[Bert03241]

Funny you come and ask for an alternative to what you been doing and we give you one and you say thanks but no thanks I stick with what I've done

[jasonsmith]

9 minutes ago, Bert03241 said:

Funny you come and ask for an alternative to what you been doing and we give you one and you say thanks but no thanks I stick with what I've done

I used Eco Flo Satin sheen last time I made a bunch of leather products as I did some testing at that time and went with that one. There are lots of different sealers like Angelus satin finisher, etc. for sale at leather supply shops. Looking to see what permanent satin sheens people have used that don't look like plastic and are consistent in application. i.e. easy to get a satin sheen every time as some are finicky in how glossy it looks.

It's been a while since I've messed with it and had planned to buy some different sealers when I order more dye to do some testing as I didn't really want to buy like 8 different kinds just to find most of them end up being high gloss.

I'm not putting floor polish on a piece of leather and never asked about floor polish but asked about leather sealer. I had assumed we'd all be talking about sealers you can buy at leather supply shop instead of at a grocery store.

[chuck123wapati]

9 hours ago, jasonsmith said:

 

I'm not putting floor polish on a piece of leather and never asked about floor polish but asked about leather sealer. I had assumed we'd all be talking about sealers you can buy at leather supply shop instead of at a grocery store.

The mop and glo solution he suggested is used by tons of folks nowadays you really must have been gone a while. Its an acrylic sealer just as most of the modern "leather " sealers and works the same. But you can pay more at the leather store if you feel the name on the bottle changes its properties.

good luck.

 

[Handstitched]

11 hours ago, jasonsmith said:

I'm not putting floor polish on a piece of leather and never asked about floor polish but asked about leather sealer. I had assumed we'd all be talking about sealers you can buy at leather supply shop instead of at a grocery store.

As an example, I've used a water based wood lacquer/varnish on leather in place of ' Neat-Lac'  as its no longer available here in Oz, or anywhere else for that matter, and it worked !! . So sometimes you have no choice but to experiment with other products and adapt .  You'd be surprised what works on leather. 

HS

[jasonsmith]

38 minutes ago, chuck123wapati said:

The mop and glo solution he suggested is used by tons of folks nowadays you really must have been gone a while. Its an acrylic sealer just as most of the modern "leather " sealers and works the same. But you can pay more at the leather store if you feel the name on the bottle changes its properties.

good luck.

 

I looked around and see some mention that stuff cracking. But anyone is free to use what they want. But I'll stick with sealers sold at leathershops as I plan to sell pieces and so wouldn't even want to risk a complication by using floor sealer. Also, sealer goes a long way, so don't even see the reason to use a floor product. The expensive part is the dye.

I looked around and see I tried Angelus Matte finisher back then also, but found it to be too glossy like plastic. I'll probably look at just sticking with Eco Flo Satin Sheen for the time being

I also noticed disclaimers on websites of these acrylic sealers saying if they get frozen during shipment, then they are ruined.

[chuck123wapati]

2 minutes ago, jasonsmith said:

I looked around and see some mention that stuff cracking. But anyone is free to use what they want. But I'll stick with sealers sold at leathershops as I plan to sell pieces and so wouldn't even want to risk a complication by using floor sealer. Also, sealer goes a long way, so don't even see the reason to use a floor product. The expensive part is the dye.

I looked around and see I tried Angelus Matte finisher back then also, but found it to be too glossy like plastic. I'll probably look at just sticking with Eco Flo Satin Sheen for the time being

I also noticed disclaimers on websites of these acrylic sealers saying if they get frozen during shipment, then they are ruined.

You know folks on the forum here don't sit around wasting their day trying to answer questions just so they can mislead people. You asked the question and that man with much more knowledge and experience tried to help you.

 What's really silly on your part is you've never used it, never even heard of it being used but you have a negative opinion based on ???? 

Any acrylic sealer will crack if used improperly and as well most of us sell pieces, your not different by any means nor will your products be, but your right you can use anything you want its your money friend or your customers more likely, you can charge more for your work to cover the cost of buying at a hobby shop.

[tsunkasapa]

13 hours ago, jasonsmith said:

I'm not putting floor polish on a piece of leather and never asked about floor polish but asked about leather sealer. I had assumed we'd all be talking about sealers you can buy at leather supply shop instead of at a grocery store.

And copping an attitude gets you put on the 'Ignore' list. These people have a couple hundred years combined experience. When you ask folks a question maybe listen to what they tell you.

And for the record, I don't know of ANYTHING that is 'forever' like you are looking for.