Recommend a permanent low sheen sealer

[fredk]

@SUP Any talcum powder, but make sure its talcum powder, either real or artificial

[SUP]

@fredk Thank you. I will look for that. 

[jasonsmith]

2 hours ago, SUP said:

Hey @DocReaper I vote blue! why am I being offended here? Hmm?

But the rest, the issue @jasonsmith is more that there is no need to be rude.  Everyone here has their own way of doing things and disagree every so often. We communicate in a friendly, polite way, not like  recalcitrant teenagers. You don't have to do what people suggest here but you don't have to knock the suggestions down the way you did. Most of the people here have decades of experience. I am a newbie too and respect that experience. You should try that sometime.

Back to the topic, @fredk what talc do you use? Any plain talcum powder? Like baby powder? 

 

Copy and paste what comments I made that you are calling "rude". I've been nice and polite. Here's my initial response. I think I was friendly:

"Thanks, but I'm going to stick with traditional leather sealers like Feibing's, Angelus, or Eco-Flo, etc. I think acrylic is probably what I'm going to end up going with due to weatherproofing, though not sure what else may be out there as it's been 10 years. I'm looking at starting to sell pieces and so wanted to do some research on a more durable sealer, if there is one that stays satin.

I used Eco-Flo satin sheen 10 years ago when I did this as a hobby for a while. Not sure if the Angelus matte or satin sealer maintains a satin sheen and is more durable, or if there is something by Feibing's. As I know there is stuff in the spray cans, but hoped to get some suggestions so I can buy say 3 to try out instead of 10."

[jasonsmith]

2 hours ago, chuck123wapati said:

You shut down the discussion with your second comment , re read it, here I'll be glad to re post it for you "  Thanks, but I'm going to stick with traditional leather sealers like Feibing's, Angelus, or Eco-Flo, etc."   

That means no one need offer any more suggestions doesn't it. 

 I came in your thread to try and help you to understand why Dwight said what he said. Acrylic floor wax is a much used and actually quite good sealer in the leather craft world if your to hard headed or just plain stupid to understand that I don't much care. I don't come on here to screw with people or to run them up some bullshit tree neither does anyone else, Dwight tried to help you so did I. Have a great day!! 

My question to others was which sealers that are sold at traditional leather shops have a satin sheen that is consistent to apply? Other than Eco Flo Satin as I have that. As I was placing an order for more dye and wanted to try another satin sheen. I did try Angelus Matte in the past that was too shiny and plastic looking. It's possible there isn't any other. 

I'm not using floor cleaner on my leather. It doesn't matter how much you want to whine about it. It's never gonna happen. Since you want to keep lobbing insults and keep trying to bully me into using Mop and Glo. I want you to stay out of any threads I start. Go cry in someone else's thread. Are we clear on that? 

And I've read many people who say to avoid using Mop and Glo on leather with problems of it cracking. I'm not using it, stop talking about Mop and Glo. It's like dealing with a child who doesn't know what "no" means.

[Doc Reaper]

3 hours ago, SUP said:

Hey @DocReaper I vote blue! why am I being offended here? Hmm?

But the rest, the issue @jasonsmith is more that there is no need to be rude.  Everyone here has their own way of doing things and disagree every so often. We communicate in a friendly, polite way, not like  recalcitrant teenagers. You don't have to do what people suggest here but you don't have to knock the suggestions down the way you did. Most of the people here have decades of experience. I am a newbie too and respect that experience. You should try that sometime.

Back to the topic, @fredk what talc do you use? Any plain talcum powder? Like baby powder? 

 

Hey I understand you got offended and why, but I can't understand WHY!! I don't respect those that are thrown different methods that are tried and tested, and shoot em down without a consideration y'all want some different outcome but keep using the same methods that give ya a sorry outcome. Respect goes both ways, now come up for air on that respect issue

Edited December 7, 2023 by Doc Reaper
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[Doc Reaper]

1 hour ago, jasonsmith said:

 

3 hours ago, SUP said:

Hey @DocReaper I vote blue! why am I being offended here? Hmm?

But the rest, the issue @jasonsmith is more that there is no need to be rude.  Everyone here has their own way of doing things and disagree every so often. We communicate in a friendly, polite way, not like  recalcitrant teenagers. You don't have to do what people suggest here but you don't have to knock the suggestions down the way you did. Most of the people here have decades of experience. I am a newbie too and respect that experience. You should try that sometime.

Back to the topic, @fredk what talc do you use? Any plain talcum powder? Like baby powder? 

 

Copy and paste what comments I made that you are calling "rude". I've been nice and polite. Here's my initial response. I think I was friendly:

"Thanks, but I'm going to stick with traditional leather sealers like Feibing's, Angelus, or Eco-Flo, etc. I think acrylic is probably what I'm going to end up going with due to weatherproofing, though not sure what else may be out there as it's been 10 years. I'm looking at starting to sell pieces and so wanted to do some research on a more durable sealer, if there is one that stays satin.

 

 

5 hours ago, jasonsmith said:

I've been a member for 13 years. I've not been an "ass" to anyone. I'm the one who started this thread. I'm not using Mop and Glo, never will. I've already got a new bottle of Eco Flo Satin sheen that I'll be using unless I come across another true satin sheen sealer when I order more dye.

jasonsmith, it read a lot worse the first time - sorry for being wank! But now you have a perfect opportunity to buy a bottle of mop n glow, a small container of baby powder, and cheap plastic containers and try some mixing. If you notice the bottle of super sheen there will be a substance that settles to the bottom of the quart bottle, that's the item (baby powder) in the mixture that stops the high glossy just waxed look, and depending how far the leather store is - you may save yourself $25 bucks by experimenting 

[Bert03241]

7 hours ago, Doc Reaper said:

Jasonsmith you have been a member for 3 years and a couple of day, stop what you are doing with the tude, step back and let a couple of GOOD FRIENDS tell you how this request for knowledge went sideways. 

 I've been doing leather for 52 years and I would always buy my supplies at a leather shop. My dogs got hold of my belt hole template and I needed a new one, Tandy had em for $48 and the hour drive there was way out of what I was willing to spend. So I made one out of an old 6X6 cedar post, which also made 2 tool holders and it just cost my time to make these items. Then I made half round cutters in various diameters. I started mixing different color dies just to see the outcome. I've used wood stain to dye leather a medium to light medium brown. 

Just because you don't want to move outside of your comfort is the same reason some of your work won't improve. It's like voting in the village idiot and expecting him to do better than he did his entire life, even when it's pointed out that idiot is a puppet the folks that think he got in by his own merits won't listen to facts and get mad at those who point out the obvious!

go to a dollar general, get a small bottle of mop and glow and start experimenting with different dilutions, use scrap leather to test the outcomes! Start with one ounce substance to one ounce water, if you want less add an extra half ounce. If it's not enough of what you want to accomplish add half an ounce of substance. Hell I think black dye is expensive so I'm playing with vinegar and iron until I'm satisfied with the color! 
Now go blow your nose and apologize for being an ass to Chuck! Also stop voting blue! 

Doc I love ya man I love wood  stain on leather and mop and glo 50/50 is awesome in my book. Use it on all my holsters and knife sheaths never had a complaint

[Bert03241]

4 hours ago, fredk said:

If you mix a small amount of talcum powder into the sealer it reduces the shine. eg, in a satin sealer it makes it more matt. By how much talc you put in you can control just how much a satin finish  you end up with

Oh gessh Fred don't tell him to use a none specified leather product on his very important high class leather .

[Burkhardt]

12 hours ago, chuck123wapati said:

What's really silly on your part is you've never used it, never even heard of it being used but you have a negative opinion based on ???? 

I got no dog in this fight either way, but back when I brought up using Veg oil on leather people in this very thread had plenty to say to me. Now other people also in this thread are testing it on working or not and so far have had no issues that have been told. And as I believe you might be also. Just saying so it's implied for everyone on here.

[Wepster]

@SUP I saw some pure talc on Amazon. Years ago my mom ordered some from a pharmacy, unscented talcum powder. We used it for greasy stains on clothes (this was before DAWN). I got melted butter on a tie. Sprinked the powder on it, next day brushed it off, the powder absorbed the melted butter. A little goes along way. Reading this thread, I now have another use for the powder!

Better living through chemistry (thank you Dupont).