Members BaileyLanier Posted April 30, 2018 Members Report Posted April 30, 2018 Hey everyone! I'm new(ish) to leatherwork, and have been looking for a decent machine that can sew belts, wallets, bridles, etc. Not super heavy duty, but enough that I don't have to worry about it. Anyway, I found one on CraigsList and my leather friends and I are having a heck of a time identifying it - take a go! Any info about it is more than welcome - we're stumped! Thanks! Here's the link: https://cosprings.craigslist.org/for/d/industrial-strength-heavy/6573075533.html Quote
Members Colt W Knight Posted April 30, 2018 Members Report Posted April 30, 2018 Ive seen those same pictures on Ebay - These are not leather machines, and wont sew anywhere near as nice as those pictures in real life leather applications. Quote
Northmount Posted April 30, 2018 Report Posted April 30, 2018 Industrial strength is a mis-nomer. It's just a old steel domestic. Have you read this post? Tom Quote
Members Norton Custom Leather Posted April 30, 2018 Members Report Posted April 30, 2018 If you decide to get serious about a leather sewing machine, call SLC & they will help you into the right machine for you. Quote
Members Yetibelle Posted April 30, 2018 Members Report Posted April 30, 2018 I can almost identify the machine for you, from one of the pictures. They did an excellent job of hiding most of the machine and narrow your vision to the sewing foot area, and the sewing actually doesn't look half bad. Anyway it looks like a Singer 15 clone maybe a Deluxe 100 or Deluxe 30. It may be a capable little home machine, but its not worth what they are asking, and its not a leather machine or close to anything industrial. I call these misleading adds "quarter-stackers" since they always try and sell you the machine based on how many quarters they can stack next to the foot. Whenever you see a smaller "home-style" machine sewing leather, and stacking-quarter beware. The 31-15 is an industrial tailor machine. However the 16-188, that is called a 16-18 in the add, is a light leather machine - your better off with these for less money! sure they need some cleaning, and probably a new servo motor. https://cosprings.craigslist.org/for/d/2-vintage-sewing-maxhines/6553220337.html Quote One day I hope to learn how to sew..... Singer 111W155 - Singer 29-4 - Singer 78-1 - Singer 7-31 - Singer 109w100 - Singer 46W-SV-16 - Adler 20-19 - Cowboy CB-4500
Members Matt S Posted April 30, 2018 Members Report Posted April 30, 2018 Old domestic worth $35 being sold as an industrial for $350. Ever seen one of those salesmen selling a "nev-r-blunt" kitchen knife on a shopping channel or in a department store? This is the sewing machine equivalent. It slices, it dices, it sews through a beer can... The coin stacking is irrelevant and not very impressive to anyone who has used a sewing machine but it's a great indicator of an overpriced machine being sold by a charlatan. Quote
Mark842 Posted April 30, 2018 Report Posted April 30, 2018 That is not a good machine for leather work. It may make a decent stitch for about two hours of sewing and then the motor will be junk. The seller does a good job of not letting you see the whole machine but what he does show is that it does not have a walking foot. For $350 you can do a lot better. Quote
Members dikman Posted May 1, 2018 Members Report Posted May 1, 2018 They do a very good job of NOT showing anything that can identify just what it actually is! It's what I would call a con job! Quote Machines wot I have - Singer 51W59; Singer 331K4; Seiko STH-8BLD; Pfaff 335; CB4500. Chinese shoe patcher; Singer 201K (old hand crank)
Members Trevor Baret Posted May 1, 2018 Members Report Posted May 1, 2018 (edited) I have to agree with all of the above. The three things which raise big red flags for me are - 1 - they go to so much trouble to hide what sort of machine it is. The photos are cropped close to hide everything but the foot (more on that later) and the text keeps referring to "The Sewing Machine". If they are so proud of what they have to offer, why don't they tell you what they have... 2 - they are showing the machine head not mounted on anything... Is the sale for the head only, or is it for a machine on a stand? It obviously can't run as it is, given that they claim it has a "*** VERY POWERFUL MOTOR ***" What is the motor mounted on? 3 - the foot is a standard SHORT SHANK straight-stitch foot. This is a domestic machine. This is also indicated by the one thing that is kind of true in their blurb - they call it "Industrial Strength" - meaning they don't dare call it "Industrial"... For the things you stated you want to sew, you need a walking foot industrial machine. The foot on this will drag on the top layer of leather. Any one of these factors would stop me from considering this machine. All together... NO WAY... Edited May 1, 2018 by Trevor Baret update information Quote "Just love preserving that old black cast iron" Our Current Industrial Singer Machines - 103K; 31M32; 31K48; 31K47; 132K6; 307G2; 17-8; 45K25; 29K58; and more coming... Our Domestic Singer machines - 201K (classic style) with knee controlled motor; 201K (classic style) with hand crank; 201K (aluminium body) with foot controlled motor.
RockyAussie Posted May 1, 2018 Report Posted May 1, 2018 1 hour ago, Trevor Baret said: VERY POWERFUL MOTOR ***" What is the motor mounted on? I am not certain but I think the last picture shows a VERY POWERFUL MOTOR mounted on the back of the head like most domestics. Here's a thought....with a light head like that if you get 2 and turn one around and put it in reverse, you could stitch up them bridle straps on both sides at the same time.. Nooo it wont work you cant get the 2 close together enough ...... you'll need 2 cylinder machines instead. Quote Wild Harry - Australian made leather goodsYouTube Channel Instagram
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