bikermutt07 Posted June 5, 2018 Report Posted June 5, 2018 Caught this video by Ryan Neel this morning. Quote I'm not paying 80 bucks for a belt!!! It's a strip of leather. How hard could it be? 4 years and 3 grand later.... I have a belt I can finally live with. Stitching is like gravy, it's only great if you make it every day. From Texas but in Bossier City, Louisiana.
Members Joseph1836 Posted June 5, 2018 Members Report Posted June 5, 2018 Is that better than the tippmann boss Quote
bikermutt07 Posted June 5, 2018 Author Report Posted June 5, 2018 23 minutes ago, Joseph1836 said: Is that better than the tippmann boss I couldn't say. I haven't tried either machine. But, I could say that maybe that was the idea behind it being built. Quote I'm not paying 80 bucks for a belt!!! It's a strip of leather. How hard could it be? 4 years and 3 grand later.... I have a belt I can finally live with. Stitching is like gravy, it's only great if you make it every day. From Texas but in Bossier City, Louisiana.
Members koreric75 Posted June 6, 2018 Members Report Posted June 6, 2018 I've messed with the boss up at the store...I couldn't see paying the price when for a few hundred more I could get a machine. I mentioned that and the response was, well it's portable and doesn't need electricity... My cowboy is just as portable since I don't need to bolt it to a workbench to keep it from jumping all over, and mine is on wheels, and if the power goes out I could handwheel it I guess lol. I haven't seen a price on the outlaw yet, but if it's even close to the boss I'd be curious to see what market they target. Quote Machines currently in use: Cowboy 3200, Adler 67-372, Singer 66, Singer 15-91
Members dikman Posted June 6, 2018 Members Report Posted June 6, 2018 An interesting machine, and I wouldn't mind one, but I suspect the price is likely to be such that as koreric says I'd be better off coughing up the extra for a "proper" machine. That arm movement could be an issue for some, as I know that after a half hour on a reloading press my arm is starting to complain. Small pieces/short runs would probably be ok, but stitching a belt could be an issue. Quote Machines wot I have - Singer 51W59; Singer 331K4; Seiko STH-8BLD; Pfaff 335; CB4500. Chinese shoe patcher; Singer 201K (old hand crank)
Members brmax Posted June 6, 2018 Members Report Posted June 6, 2018 To me it really does look easy to cycle the lever. The repetition could be the workout I agree. It has my interest in all its functions and such, yep! Pretty cool. Good day Floyd Quote
CowboyBob Posted June 6, 2018 Report Posted June 6, 2018 Well the price will be $1,295.00 + shpg.I haven't had my hands on one yet , but will by the end of this month.Yes.it's not a machine for everyone, BUT we get a lot of calls for hand stitchers.Some people want one to go to shows with or don't have the room for a standard type machine w/a table. Yes,it looks very similar to the other handcrank BUT it's made of cast-iron & steel gears & there's some other improvements too.So it will be more user friendly. Due to the heavier construction it weighs 50Lbs & still light enough to be portable. Quote Bob Kovar Toledo Industrial Sewing Machine Sales Ltd. 3631 Marine Rd Toledo,Ohio 43609 1-866-362-7397
bikermutt07 Posted June 6, 2018 Author Report Posted June 6, 2018 26 minutes ago, Joseph1836 said: 13 hours ago, koreric75 said: I've messed with the boss up at the store...I couldn't see paying the price when for a few hundred more I could get a machine. I mentioned that and the response was, well it's portable and doesn't need electricity... My cowboy is just as portable since I don't need to bolt it to a workbench to keep it from jumping all over, and mine is on wheels, and if the power goes out I could handwheel it I guess lol. I haven't seen a price on the outlaw yet, but if it's even close to the boss I'd be curious to see what market they target. I totally see your point. And, I was never one to profess the awesomeness of the Boss. But, one day I was schooled here by such a person. The big advantage of this machine outside of portability, and off gridability, is the capability of clearance. These machines boast ¾-⅞" lift. That is a lot for the price you will pay. Now, I don't need that much capacity, but it is nice to see an option well below 2 grand if I did. P.S. I'm all about that same 3200 when I can get it. Quote I'm not paying 80 bucks for a belt!!! It's a strip of leather. How hard could it be? 4 years and 3 grand later.... I have a belt I can finally live with. Stitching is like gravy, it's only great if you make it every day. From Texas but in Bossier City, Louisiana.
Members Hildebrand Posted June 6, 2018 Members Report Posted June 6, 2018 It will be interesting to see when this gets out into the hands of some users. If they have fixed the tension issues that plague the Boss then they will definitely have a winner esp at a price point at least a couple hundred lower than the Boss. For a hobby guy like me these hand stitchers are great, no guilt if your not using it on a frequent basis and when you need it, it is so much faster than hand sewing. Right now my Boss is point on, but I have only had this good of luck with white thread, both the black and brown that I tried did not function nearly as well. I have a couple holsters to finish then I am going to make another stab at the black and brown and see if I can make it work. Quote
Members dikman Posted June 6, 2018 Members Report Posted June 6, 2018 As one gets older some things that used to be considered portable seem to magically put on weight........ Quote Machines wot I have - Singer 51W59; Singer 331K4; Seiko STH-8BLD; Pfaff 335; CB4500. Chinese shoe patcher; Singer 201K (old hand crank)
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